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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard "n 1949 renowned inventor, gun designer, self-taught engineer, and entrepreneur Bill Ruger wished to produce and market a new handgun; and acquired a World War II Japanese Nambu pistol from a returning US Marine. Ruger successfully duplicated two Baby Nambu pistols[3] in his garage. Using the Nambu's silhouette and bolt system, Ruger produced his first prototype, but lacked the venture capital necessary to fund its introduction." I've only taken my MKII all the way apart twice in the last 15 years. Fired thousands of rounds. Q-tips, barrel brush, and Hobbs followed up with fresh lube is enough to keep it going! |
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Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...
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I could see this coming a mile away.
Long gone are the days when the Japanese used a side arm that John might aprove. This forum has been too quiet lately. |
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Of course, from the WikiPedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambu_pistol "The Nambu Type A outwardly resembles the Luger P08 pistol but functionally is more similar to the Mauser C96.[3]" I guess, what goes around, goes around and around and around...
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John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his...
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But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something! As far as the Type 94 there must have been bribery involved with getting that into production. |
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Well, here's something close...
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Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine. Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate. Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me. Sieger |
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I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way. Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape. Sieger |
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The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO. Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".
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Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work. However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars". Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference. Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!! Sieger |
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Zorba,
A liberal newspaper wouldn't be looking for her emails, but maybe the Washington Times can find them. Putin has them all anyway, as he has been reading her correspondence, every night, for years. Maybe Snowden found them for him! Sieger |
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Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!!
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Well... jeez... who’da thunk a little American made (OK not so little, but..) pistol would generate such exchanges
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The implication was that there was/is something wrong with late war pistols- other than aesthetics- they are identical to pretty ones.
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