DWM P08 Mixmaster, opinions requested

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by rhuff

It is your Luger, so you do what makes you happy, we do. I might add, that once you do shoot it, you may find that shooting Lugers can become addictive!! If you do your part, they are scary accurate, even with poor condition bores.

Hear! Hear!

[DonVoigt]

And whatever you do don't put a trommel mag in it and shoot.
Your "maybe 50" rounds will go out the window and you'll be looking at hundreds of rounds, 32 at a time!

[Tinplatejeff]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

And whatever you do don't put a trommel mag in it and shoot.
Your "maybe 50" rounds will go out the window and you'll be looking at hundreds of rounds, 32 at a time!

[kurusu]

Just to get one thing straight. A shooter Luger, in my hands gets to shoot from 1 to 2 thousand rounds a year because it's used in competition and respective practice.

So when I say don't use as a shooter, that's what I mean.

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by kurusu

Just to get one thing straight. A shooter Luger, in my hands gets to shoot from 1 to 2 thousand rounds a year because it's used in competition and respective practice.

So when I say don't use as a shooter, that's what I mean.

Yes,
"shooter" is in the eye of the shooter!
So do wear eye and ear protection.

I have two kinds, the kind I like to shoot a little, like the .30s, for which the ammo price limits the fun.

Then I have my navy clone/mixmaster 9mm "real" shooter, that likes the drum, so it gets more shooting exercise.

It still won't see 1000 rounds in a year, maybe close- so it is not a
"real" shooter to kurusu.

[alvin]

Brand name pistol's quality is an interesting topic. Sure, being a brand name implies high quality. But we occasionally see "factory errors" on brand name pistols. Is that real?

Back in 1935, Falkenhausen (a German general serving Chiang Kai-Shek) reported back to Germany that Chinese randomly inspected 20 brand new Mauser pistols from a crate just opened, and found six of them were NOT perfect. Brand name has a burden -- the issues found might not be very serious but buyer's expectation is high. But 6 out of 20, that's 30%, the rate was not low. Unfortunately, detail of what being imperfect was not recorded in his report.

[Tinplatejeff]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

I would call it "good, with fine pitting through out", it is quite shootable. JMHO.

If a bore is bright but worn, you might find it called fair or good but bright and worn.

If as new- excellent; with slight wear no pitting or darkness, very good to excellent.

Again, JMHO, one word won't do it, have to have some ancillary or modifying description to be complete.

Here's the bore after cleaning with a brass brush and swabbing with a patch. Not bad considering it is a 107 years old

[DonVoigt]

I'll now call it : worn with moderate pitting througout.

Good picture, fair bore!

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by Tinplatejeff

Here's the bore after cleaning with a brass brush and swabbing with a patch. Not bad considering it is a 107 years old

There are an awful lot of Lugers around with bores that look exactly like yours. Corrosive primers, and poor maintenance are usually the culprits. Same is true for 1911 and 1911A1 handgun bores. Look bad....shoot good!! It also takes less time to clean them, as you will never make them shiny.

[Tinplatejeff]

Made it to the range today with my P08 that I got back in February at the beginning of this thread.

Gun was cleaned and lubed before. I fired 50 rounds.

Absolutely flawless.

No jams.

No misfires.

I am still in awe.

[Mike B]

Jeff,
For what it is worth, I have the "bring back papers" for 4281.
Mike

[Tinplatejeff]

Originally Posted by Mike B

Jeff,
For what it is worth, I have the "bring back papers" for 4281.
Mike

Mike,

Hmm. It could be for this or some other 4281? Does it list the letter block? Any details on the manufacturer? When and where it was brought back?

-Jeff

[Mike B]

No suffix letter. But back in the day, the suffix was not known to be part of the serial number. The only description is "Luger pistol serial 4281". Signed by the capturer and the officer who signed it. Dated October 15, 1945. I was 3 months old.

Mike

[GerColctor]

Jeff
As mentioned above by Jerry, mismatched Lugers tend to break after being fired a number of times. No exact amount of ammo that passes thru this parts pistols can be determined as to when it might happen.
Lugers were hand fitting guns and they were made to close tolerances. The primary reason for the number parts was to help in the reassembly whenever it was disassembled around other Lugers, in order to assure only the same pieces are installed.

I acquired my first Luger as a young man and was very similar to yours, a grip safety commercial frame and a non military DWM marked upper slide and toggle. Most of the small parts did not match either the top or bottom, but what did I know, except it was "genuine" Luger.

After firing this gun quite a few times, suddenly the middle toggle cracked. The pieces of the original toggle were not matched to each other. Not a big deal as I able to soon get a replacement toggle train that was matching, thinking that eliminated the problem, except it happened again. There apparently was too much pressure on the toggle when it folds back as this gun is fired. The train parts might be matched, but it wasn't to the upper receiver.

Like you, from the day I got this gun I loved the look and feel and wanted more of them. It took about 25 years before I was in a position to buy my second one, a completely matching military.

Best of luck with your toy, as also mentioned, take care of it.