Whats with the '9' on the grips on some artillerys? - Page 3

cirelaw · 02-10-2015, 08:05 PM

Dumb but why a hole in the hammer?

cirelaw · 02-10-2015, 08:10 PM

TKS I found a discussion~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7_OLs0slY Well that makes sence I guess!!!

alvin · 02-10-2015, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Dumb but why a hole in the hammer?

That's actually a great question.. From a report on rifle design, I heard the designer tried to reduce its weight, measured in grams, here or there. And that's for a rifle.

For pistol, given material and size, it's not easy to reduce its weight. Three major parts: slide needs weight, you don't want to cut corner there, the weight on slide is functional. Barrel needs strength, it cannot be made thinner. Frame is usually a big saver on weight. On small parts, drill a hole on hammer can reduce 1 or 2 grams without affecting its function nor strength.

cirelaw · 02-10-2015, 09:23 PM

Did they supply a metal tool to facilitate the stated operation for the trigger! As far as reducing weight that I believe wouldn't make any appreciably difference and maybe weakon the most stressfull componement of the gun its' trigger~ I will track down every lead and share the results~ Eric

alanint · 02-10-2015, 09:39 PM

Hammers often have holes or are outright skeletonized (as in custom 1911s) to improve lock time, ( I.e. the time between trigger pull and the actual discharge of the round). Given the same spring, a lighter hammer will drop faster, theoretically improving accuracy.

cirelaw · 02-10-2015, 09:47 PM

I never cease to be amazed~~ Tks as always!

Sergio Natali · 02-11-2015, 04:08 AM

I've always been a 1911 enthusiast too, so I enclosed a picture about skeletonized hammer i a 1911

This is a Commander style hammer. There are many variations on this design, smaller and larger, different hole patterns, jeweled, etc.

Sergio

cirelaw · 02-11-2015, 08:56 AM

Thank You My Friend. I believe it has nothing to do with weight. It provides an alternate way to grip the trigger from the side instead of only the top! That seems to me to make more sence. Eric

cirelaw · 02-11-2015, 10:05 AM

Our other forum addressed this topic~ http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/p...uard-hole.html PS They don't have a clue~

cirelaw · 02-11-2015, 10:25 AM

Another discussion eleven year ago and no closer an answer~~ http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i...p/t-71653.html

cirelaw · 02-12-2015, 08:29 AM

I noticed this on facebook~

George Anderson · 02-12-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

I noticed this on facebook~

Interesting photo, I wonder where they got it.

cirelaw · 02-19-2015, 06:31 PM

I found a Pretty '9' in The NRA Firearms Museum~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAuAC5Bca6A

02-11-2015, 04:08 AM	#47
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I've always been a 1911 enthusiast too, so I enclosed a picture about skeletonized hammer i a 1911 This is a Commander style hammer. There are many variations on this design, smaller and larger, different hole patterns, jeweled, etc. Sergio Attached Images __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

02-11-2015, 10:05 AM	#49
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Our other forum addressed this topic~ http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/p...uard-hole.html PS They don't have a clue~ Attached Thumbnails

02-12-2015, 08:29 AM	#51
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I noticed this on facebook~ Attached Thumbnails

02-19-2015, 06:31 PM	#53
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I found a Pretty '9' in The NRA Firearms Museum~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAuAC5Bca6A Attached Thumbnails

02-10-2015, 08:05 PM	#41
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Dumb but why a hole in the hammer?

02-10-2015, 08:10 PM	#42
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	TKS I found a discussion~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7_OLs0slY Well that makes sence I guess!!!

02-10-2015, 09:23 PM	#44
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Did they supply a metal tool to facilitate the stated operation for the trigger! As far as reducing weight that I believe wouldn't make any appreciably difference and maybe weakon the most stressfull componement of the gun its' trigger~ I will track down every lead and share the results~ Eric

02-10-2015, 09:39 PM	#45
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Hammers often have holes or are outright skeletonized (as in custom 1911s) to improve lock time, ( I.e. the time between trigger pull and the actual discharge of the round). Given the same spring, a lighter hammer will drop faster, theoretically improving accuracy.

02-10-2015, 09:47 PM	#46
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I never cease to be amazed~~ Tks as always!

02-11-2015, 08:56 AM	#48
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You My Friend. I believe it has nothing to do with weight. It provides an alternate way to grip the trigger from the side instead of only the top! That seems to me to make more sence. Eric

02-11-2015, 10:25 AM	#50
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Another discussion eleven year ago and no closer an answer~~ http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i...p/t-71653.html