Project: Pictures Request

[PirateKing]

Hello everyone. I have a request for everyone who is in possession of an Luger P08.
I would like an 8 photographs at 8 angles for the following parts.
The angels are top,bottom,right,left, top 45deg right, top 45 deg left, bottom 45 degree right, bottom 45 degree left.
The angels don't have to be an exact of course. Just eye ball it.
It would make me thrice as happy if a video was taken in addition to it. A slow video examining all details and angels of the part.

Parts:
-The Chamber
-The Hull (Can also be called, shell or pod.)
-The Front Hinge
-The Behind Joint
-The Stripped Casing

Than you very much. It means a lot to me if you guys are able to fill in this request.

Sincerely,

The Pirate King

[alanint]

Googling images of Lugers will probably net you what you are looking for.

This is also a tall order in time and effort when no purpose for the exercise is forthcoming.

[John Sabato]

Glen, since this is your first post on this forum, it might be helpful if you introduced yourself to the forum, and told a little about yourself, and what you intend to do with the photographs you have requested.

You may not realize that this forum has over 11,000 registered members world-wide, and if only 10 percent of them chose to answer you that would be 8800 photographs.

Where in the world are you located? How old are you? Do you own a P.08, or more than one? are you a collector? or Shooter? or both... and what will you do with the photos?

I doubt you will get much cooperation from the forum members on your project unless you do answer these questions. Your request would entail a lot of effort by each member.

[Edward Tinker]

Please explain more - as a Moderator I can see your name, email and IP

None of them match up... IP says Germany - email shows a domain that does not exist

Name is way different than email....

[alanint]

Unfortunately, blind requests such as these are often used by scammers that wish to use the images to sell a pistol they do not posess. Until we know much more, I would hesitate to assist.

BTW, the "Pirate King" moniker doesn't much help your case. Just sayin.....

[PirateKing]

I understand all your concerns. Allow me to explain myself.

Alainit: I have searched the web, with no avail for what I'm looking for. In a sense, I want to see every nook, indent, etc of each individual part as they're somewhat complicatedly built. I'll be honest, I didn't even think of those possibilities of scammers. I unfortunately don't want to share all the information on the "project" itself, but Boy Scout's honer, it will not be anything that will negatively affect anyone. Pirate King.. I see what you mean. Again, I wasn't thinking.

Edward: It's true, I'm not in the U.S for the time being. I'm currently staying a year abroad. My email is valid. The name is different because I've been taught never to share my real name online with all those dangerous old men lurking about.

John: My online name is Glen Henson, I'm a young man with big goals. All of which are legal. I'm an enthusiast engineer, and I love playing with big machines as a hobby. I'm located in Germany, and I'm from the U.S.A. Merica! I'm between the ages of 18 and 25. I regrettably do not own a Luger P08 for the time being. I do plan on purchasing an artillery version in the far future. I'm not a collector, but I never would mind more guns. Shooting is a part of life I could never give up. I'm an competitive air rifle shooter, and in the for fun I shoot shotgun or long range.

I did not expect for even 10% of the people to share photos, and I required people would stop once they realized I had over 1000+.

Is there anything else you guys would like to know? As far as my project, Ive said all I will. It will not negatively impact anyone, but as an engineer enthusiast I'd like as much information as I can on the Luger, and looking at the parts i've requested will greatly help me.

[mrerick]

Check on this site. You can obtain a complete set of blueprints should that prove helpful to you.

Marc

[John Sabato]

The full original blueprints for the P.08 are available in the For Sale forum as a 'sticky' post near the top of the For Sale page... Click Here: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=11286 The cost is $25.00 via paypal and the files are delivered by download, no longer by CD via mail. They will serve your purpose of knowing every nook and cranny of any part you are interested in. The files are in a zip file that is approximately 440MB in size.

If you want to purchase a copy of the blueprints, send me a private message.

[PirateKing]

I thank you guys for finding the blueprints for me. It was nice of you to put your time into this.
However, I already have the original blueprints and I'm having a little trouble reading them. That's a reason I want the pictures, so I got a better idea of what I'm looking at.
I'm probably spent a couple hours already watching disassemble videos, but they never show the parts well enough, etc.

[Geo99]

Dear Mr. King,

This is either the funniest or weirdest post I've seen in awhile. Where did you come up with this terminology? I don't have a clue what you are talking about:

-The Chamber
-The Hull (Can also be called, shell or pod.)
-The Front Hinge
-The Behind Joint
-The Stripped Casing

I gotta go - my behind joint is tired, my hull needs scraping, my front hinge is worn out, and don't even get me started on my casing - I think it's stripped.

[Edward Tinker]

go to our frontpage - www.lugerforum.com and then go to the technical area and find the blow up part names.

So;

1. Start with knowing the correct terminology and we can help
2. We don't live in 'merica' - at least i don't
3. I work as a IT Security professional, and not releasing your name is fine, but a first name is hard to believe it will be bad for you to release. That sounds like something that is said to teens on websites...
4. I find it very hard to believe you can't find pictures of every single part you are looking for, right here on the forum - a good place to look would be the 'album' section - lots of people show many exacting photos here on the forum, let alone the internet.

Google showed me hundreds of photos - and I understand you have a 'project' and we have helped before, the frontpage is of a Russian who designed 3D and made the graphic for us. Another was writing a book and wanted to know terminology so that they did not sound like an idiot.

So, we are willing to help, but imagine that most of the guys are 60+ years in age and sometimes they need a bit of encouragement to share and do a lot of work for what you are looking for....

BTW, I would guess that is what you want to do, a 3D or other animation of the luger.
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[CAP Black]

I think there is a fly in the ointment.
Jack

[Sergio Natali]

Geoge, Edward and Jack

I obviously agree with your posts, the requests seem a bit strange to me.

Sergio

[alanint]

Still way too sketchy and a bit presumptuous for me to add further.

[John Sabato]

If you are having trouble reading the blueprints, you may not have a clear set. Some folks have copied the blueprints sold on this site and reduced the resolution so the small numbers are hard or impossible to read. These blueprints are known for readability. If you don't understand what you are seeing, that is a different issue. Then you will require a bit more study of mechanical engineering and manufacturing drawings.

If you have specific questions about specific parts, ask them. But your original request is too general in nature and doesn't use the correct terminology for folks to assist you.

Study the thousands of photos available on this site already... that may help you.

If you are truly interested in knowing all about the mechanical issues with Luger pistols, then buy the e-book by Gerard Henrotin. His animation is on the home page of this website and there is a link to where you can buy his e-books. The one on the Luger Mechanicals is excellent for beginners and includes animations to show not only the parts but the working relationships between the parts. The e-books cost less than $10.00 each.

Here is a link to the one recommended.

http://www.hlebooks.com/ebook/eluger1.htm

[alanint]

I'm guessing that photos, not plans, are the key here. Maybe for the production of a video game or similar.

[ithacaartist]

+1 http://www.hlebooks.com/ebook/eluger1.htm

If you are attempting to understand function of P.08, this will help. However, I think Doug is correct--age range and nature of request are telling.

[PirateKing]

Hello everyone once again.

- As far as terms, I was using direct translations from German to English off the original blueprints. I understand there is room for mistake in that, and if your confused about a term, I can point out which part specifically.

- Naturally, I do not mind if you do not live in America or American.

- As far as my first name goes, I think that is a rather harsh thing to say. Honestly, it's all personal preference, and I've been taught to respect others opinions.
-Considering finding the pictures on the forums. I did this for the sake of speed and getting exactly what I want. If I do not have luck here, the albums will be next.

- I won't say your guess is completely wrong. I am working on my Solid Works skills. That is all I want to say on the matter. I do have my reasons.

- Encouragement, I'm not sure I can offer any thing. I understand economics. "The butcher doesn't sell his meat for the benevolence of the customer, but for the benevolence of the butcher." I guess I can say, that when the "project" is finished. I will be sure to let you guys know what it is, and so on. In the mean time, all I can offer is a thank you.

- You misunderstood the statement, John. I am not having trouble reading the blueprints from the blueprints quality stand point. The copy I have is bought and in good condition. However, my skills as a drafter are not that great, and I'm learning as I go. I am having trouble reading them as understanding what I'm looking at.

- I could study the thousands of photos on the site, and I might just do that. As I mentioned before, this was simply a request of speed. As everyone knows, time is extremely precious. I do understand as well I'm asking for your time. This is a big request. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, just asking.

- Age range was mentioned. 18-25. Nature of request, mentioned further above. The moderator wasn't too far off.

-Nope. I have no interest in any product of a video game.

,Glen

[Edward Tinker]

so, go to the part of this website and tell us the english names.

I can guess, but your usage is completely wrong.

-The Chamber - THE INSIDE? THE EXTERIOR?
-The Hull (Can also be called, shell or pod.) THE FRAME? THE CARTRIDGE ITSELF?
-The Front Hinge - FOR THE TOGGLE?
-The Behind Joint - FOR THE TOGGLE?
-The Stripped Casing - NO IDEA

You need to try hard, write in Deutsch exactly what you are looking for and then several members will see it and respond.

[PirateKing]

Okay. I'll write the parts I'm looking for in German.

Die Kammer
Die Hulse (The "u" is umloted"
Das Hintergelenk
Das Vordergelenk
The Gun Frame without parts on it.