pawn shop Lugers

chestnut101 · 11-16-2011, 07:55 PM

i found 2 lugers in a local pawn shop a 1917 DWM and a 1918 erfurt. the 1918 was all matching as far as i could tell but with aluminum mag base and vopo grips. no import marks but made in germany. 4 digit serial. i know nothing about lugers other than firing one 30 years ago. i put the 1918 on layaway for $800. it looks to be about 70% with some surface rust. any help you can give me would be great. thanks ken

Curly1 · 11-16-2011, 10:30 PM

Ken welcome to the forums.

This FAQ thread will get you jump started.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

Post pics when you get her home.

chestnut101 · 11-17-2011, 07:03 PM

i went back and looked at it again today, no made in germany markings. how can i tell which caliber its in? 9mm or 7.65? thanks ken

bandit09 · 11-17-2011, 07:35 PM

If a #2 pencil will fit down the barrel, it is 9mm.

chestnut101 · 11-17-2011, 07:40 PM

ok now i got to buy a pencil!

chestnut101 · 02-27-2012, 09:55 PM

update got it for $535. should get it home in a week or so

sheepherder · 02-27-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chestnut101

update got it for $535. should get it home in a week or so

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...unbelievable...I mean, that an Erfurt would go for that...little...

padredan · 02-27-2012, 10:23 PM

not really. alot of pawn shops will base the price on what they loaned on it and the interest for three months , 90 days without interest payments , means it goes out for sale or PFI, pulled for inventory, if 200.00 was loaned on it @ 20 percent per month, meaning there is 320.00 total in the item, if you retail it and it sells for around 500.00 you have doubled. most pawn shops will use a code , so they can tell what they have in it, this can vary from one shop to the next, it will usualy be on the tag above the price , as alpha letters. Now how do i know this , i have owned two pawn shops and currently do firearms repairs for several in the area, most of the times the prices are negotiable, usualy retail prices are about double of the loan plus the interest, hope this may be of some help, regards Dan

chestnut101 · 02-27-2012, 10:24 PM

i actually feel i got a great deal from there. this shop has some greta deals from time to time.
i have since met the man who pawned it. suposedly a Veitnam bring back and it has vopo grips. i cant wait to bring it home and learn more.

rob00000 · 02-27-2012, 11:13 PM

Gee....maybe I should start checking out pawnshops.

padredan · 02-27-2012, 11:42 PM

It can be hit or miss, for the most part .anything of real value will get picked off, by the staff or sold to the inside circle of repeat buyers, there are 14 shops around this area, it is rare to ever see a luger of any quality ever make it out for open sale, but it does happen. right now there is a fairly nice artilary out for sale, but it happens to be for sale at one of the shops that i am not on good terms with, this does happen in this kind of bussiness, it has to be a bit over priced for what it is , it has been out for sale for over a month.

chestnut101 · 02-28-2012, 12:03 AM

i have to many hobbies firearms motorcycles and nikon camera's a luger is on my bucket list so right time and place. i bought a Lnib sprinfield trp from the same shop last year for $500!
it's a keeper also.

LugerMan.com · 02-28-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chestnut101

i found 2 lugers in a local pawn shop a 1917 DWM and a 1918 erfurt. the 1918 was all matching as far as i could tell but with aluminum mag base and vopo grips. no import marks but made in germany. 4 digit serial. i know nothing about lugers other than firing one 30 years ago. i put the 1918 on layaway for $800. it looks to be about 70% with some surface rust. any help you can give me would be great. thanks ken

Can you send me a phone of the PAWN shop , maybe I can get the other gun ?

padredan · 02-28-2012, 10:47 AM

Interesting, All my time in the republic of viet nam and asia i ran into alot of firearms, never a luger, but it was french indo china, anything is possible. In the pawn shop bussiness you run into alot of odd things and the stories you get with them.

padredan · 02-28-2012, 11:00 AM

sometimes some of the people you hire are not the most knowledgable about firearms. some days you are just happy no one got shot. you would not believe the number of guns brought in loaded.

alanint · 02-28-2012, 11:39 AM

The local pawn Shop has two holes in the ceiling!

padredan · 02-28-2012, 04:39 PM

One shop i use to work at, had bullet holes in the ceiling, interior walls, front window and a slug in one side of the coke box and a near miss on the sign that said your gun must be unloaded before entering,where ever there are firearms there will those that are unsafe.

chestnut101 · 02-28-2012, 04:57 PM

the 1917 was sold allready and i have the 1918

CavScoutEurope · 02-28-2012, 07:57 PM

Vietnam bring back?!? Wow! I have a buddy that brought back a K98 from Vietnam; sadly someone stole it years ago.

alvin · 02-28-2012, 08:07 PM

One story said Ho Chi Minh asking Soviet Union for arm assistance, and Soviet sent him lots of WWII captured MP40 submachine guns. Facing those C&R, Ho was so angry and ordered his men "move them to the museum".... in front of the Russian representative.

11-16-2011, 07:55 PM	#1
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	pawn shop Lugers i found 2 lugers in a local pawn shop a 1917 DWM and a 1918 erfurt. the 1918 was all matching as far as i could tell but with aluminum mag base and vopo grips. no import marks but made in germany. 4 digit serial. i know nothing about lugers other than firing one 30 years ago. i put the 1918 on layaway for $800. it looks to be about 70% with some surface rust. any help you can give me would be great. thanks ken

02-27-2012, 10:23 PM	#8
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	not really. alot of pawn shops will base the price on what they loaned on it and the interest for three months , 90 days without interest payments , means it goes out for sale or PFI, pulled for inventory, if 200.00 was loaned on it @ 20 percent per month, meaning there is 320.00 total in the item, if you retail it and it sells for around 500.00 you have doubled. most pawn shops will use a code , so they can tell what they have in it, this can vary from one shop to the next, it will usualy be on the tag above the price , as alpha letters. Now how do i know this , i have owned two pawn shops and currently do firearms repairs for several in the area, most of the times the prices are negotiable, usualy retail prices are about double of the loan plus the interest, hope this may be of some help, regards Dan __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-27-2012, 11:42 PM	#11
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	It can be hit or miss, for the most part .anything of real value will get picked off, by the staff or sold to the inside circle of repeat buyers, there are 14 shops around this area, it is rare to ever see a luger of any quality ever make it out for open sale, but it does happen. right now there is a fairly nice artilary out for sale, but it happens to be for sale at one of the shops that i am not on good terms with, this does happen in this kind of bussiness, it has to be a bit over priced for what it is , it has been out for sale for over a month. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-28-2012, 10:47 AM	#14
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	Interesting, All my time in the republic of viet nam and asia i ran into alot of firearms, never a luger, but it was french indo china, anything is possible. In the pawn shop bussiness you run into alot of odd things and the stories you get with them. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-28-2012, 11:00 AM	#15
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	sometimes some of the people you hire are not the most knowledgable about firearms. some days you are just happy no one got shot. you would not believe the number of guns brought in loaded. Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

11-16-2011, 10:30 PM	#2
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 111 Thanked 702 Times in 364 Posts	Ken welcome to the forums. This FAQ thread will get you jump started. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121 Post pics when you get her home. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

11-17-2011, 07:03 PM	#3
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	i went back and looked at it again today, no made in germany markings. how can i tell which caliber its in? 9mm or 7.65? thanks ken

11-17-2011, 07:35 PM	#4
bandit09 User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If a #2 pencil will fit down the barrel, it is 9mm.

11-17-2011, 07:40 PM	#5
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	ok now i got to buy a pencil!

02-27-2012, 09:55 PM	#6
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	update got it for $535. should get it home in a week or so

02-27-2012, 10:24 PM	#9
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	i actually feel i got a great deal from there. this shop has some greta deals from time to time. i have since met the man who pawned it. suposedly a Veitnam bring back and it has vopo grips. i cant wait to bring it home and learn more.

02-27-2012, 11:13 PM	#10
rob00000 User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Gee....maybe I should start checking out pawnshops.

02-28-2012, 12:03 AM	#12
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	i have to many hobbies firearms motorcycles and nikon camera's a luger is on my bucket list so right time and place. i bought a Lnib sprinfield trp from the same shop last year for $500! it's a keeper also.

02-28-2012, 11:39 AM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The local pawn Shop has two holes in the ceiling!

02-28-2012, 04:39 PM	#17
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	One shop i use to work at, had bullet holes in the ceiling, interior walls, front window and a slug in one side of the coke box and a near miss on the sign that said your gun must be unloaded before entering,where ever there are firearms there will those that are unsafe. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-28-2012, 04:57 PM	#18
chestnut101 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: georgia Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	the 1917 was sold allready and i have the 1918

02-28-2012, 07:57 PM	#19
CavScoutEurope User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 86 Thanks: 102 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Vietnam bring back?!? Wow! I have a buddy that brought back a K98 from Vietnam; sadly someone stole it years ago.

02-28-2012, 08:07 PM	#20
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	One story said Ho Chi Minh asking Soviet Union for arm assistance, and Soviet sent him lots of WWII captured MP40 submachine guns. Facing those C&R, Ho was so angry and ordered his men "move them to the museum".... in front of the Russian representative.