Data request 1937 and 1938 S/42

[Jan C Still]

1937 1938 DATA REQUEST
Droop Wing Eagle=DE, Stick Wing Eagle =SE, Mid Test Proof=MTP
1937 1938 DATA REQUEST
March 7, 2009
1937 S/42, sn 5607p, DE/63 DE/63, Strawed.
1937 S/42, sn 6874p, DE/63 DE/63, Strawed, no frame hump
1937 S/42, sn 7394p, DE/63 DE/63, Strawed, no frame hump .
1937 S/42, sn 7524p, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 7727p, DE/63 DE/63 MTP; Strawed,
1937 S/42, sn 7868 p, DE63
1937 S/42, sn 8055p DE 63 DE 63 MTP, strawed, no hump
1937 S/42, sn 8709p DE/63 DE/63 MTP, strawed, no hump, matched blued tube magazine
1937 S/42, sn 309q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, straw
1937 S/42, sn 1004q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP Strawed, no hump.
1937 S/42, sn 1789q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 2322q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 6008q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (Strawed)
1937 S/42, sn 6220q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed
1937 S/42, sn 8044q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 333r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, straw.
1937 S/42, sn 1237r DE/63, DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 12xxr, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (Simpsons list)
1937 S/42, sn1489r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed small parts.
1937 S/42 sn 1521r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 1682r, DE/63 DE/63--no hump,
1937 S/42, sn 2839r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, matched mag with SE/63, no hump, straw.
1937 S/42, sn 3688r, DE63 DE63 MTP, strawed small parts, no hump
1937 S/42, sn 7121r, DE/63,DE/63, w/straw
1937 S/42, sn 8556r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (mag stick E/63)
1937 S/42 sn 8583r, ----KM O.2887
1937 S/42, sn 9557r, Strawed, KM N 2355 on back strap.
1937 S/42, sn 9581r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42 sn 9881r, DE/63, DE/63, MTP,--- KM N2354
1937 S/42 sn 407s, ----KM N2373
1937 S/42 sn 532s, ----KM O.2642
1937 S/42 sn 533s, ----KM O.2940
1937 S/42, sn 671s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 1166s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 1260s DE/63 DE/63 MTP---KM O.3261
1937 S/42, sn 2834s DE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 3461s, DE63 DE63 MTP note: matching mag has SE63 proof
1937, S/42, sn 6424s, DE63 DE63 MTP, strawed, bump, grips not numbered, matching blue tube SE63 mag
1937, S/42, sn 6902s, DE63 DE63 MTP, blued, bump, matching grips
1937 S/42, sn 7224s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, hump, straw,
1937 S/42, sn 7346s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame bump, strawed
1937 S/42, sn 9033s, DE/63 DE/63, MTP, straw, mauser hump, match. mag. WaA SE/63.
1937 S/42 sn 9241s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 9746s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed
1937, S/42, sn 641t, DE63 DE63 MTP, Blued, bump, barrel DE63 left side, mag DE63,
1937 S/42, sn 996t, DE63 DE63 MTP, strawed, frame hump
1937 S/42, sn1144t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed small parts, one matching mag
1937 S/42, sn 1264t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP; strawed, hump; matching mag SE63
1937 S/42, sn 1860t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 1958t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, strawed and frame hump
1937 S/42, sn 2878t, strawed, humped
1937 S/42, sn 1291u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame bump, blued
1937 S/42, sn 1412u DE 63 DE 63 MTP Blued ..Match. mag has SE/63 acceptance
1937 S/42, sn 2481u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame hump, blued
1937 S/42, sn 4185u, DE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 6047u, DE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 6561u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 6835u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed
1937 S/42, sn 9094u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP w/matching mag SE/63, small parts blue, no hump.
1937 S/42, sn 235v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 1991v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 2604 v, DE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42 sn 3253v, DE63 DE63 MTP
1937, S/42, sn 3695v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (all blue)
1937 S/42, sn 4235v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP blued small parts.
1937 S/42, sn 4940v, DE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 4995v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 8581v DE63 DE/63 MTP, all blue, frame hump,
1937 S/42, sn 2099w, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame bump, blued, Mag SE/63 matched
1937, S/42, sn 7577w, DE63 DE63, (mag SE63)
1937 S/42, sn 33x, DE/63 DE/63, MTP, hump, all blue
1937 S/42 sn 1321x DE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42 sn 1646x DE63 DE63 MTP; hump, blue, mag matched SE/63
1937 S/42, sn 2536x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 3271x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 4497x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 874x, DE63
1937 S/42, sn 9077x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 9538x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP blued small parts.
1937 S/42 sn 9553x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued, hump
1937 S/42, sn121y DE/?3 DE/63 MTP match. mags stick E/63 - extractor strawed no. 21.
1937 S/42, sn 1502y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 2053y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (all blued), Matching magazine blued with alu bottom DE/63 marked.
1937, S42, sn 2310y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 3425y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 4032y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 4147y, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, all blued with hump
1937 S/42, sn 6805 y, SE63 DE63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 9512 y, SE63 SE63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn1755z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued. matching mag SE/63 acceptance.
1937 S/42, sn2926z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued, grips matched, hump, inside side plate number 29.
1937 S/42, sn 3279z, SE/63,SE/63, blue, matching grips, matching mag SE/63
1937 S/42, sn 3289z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 3632z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 3664z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 3997z, SE63 DE63 MTP
1937, S/42, sn 5630z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued, matching mag
1937 S/42, sn 5970z, DE/63 DE/63 MTP blued small parts.
1937 S/42, sn 6303z, SE/63 DE/63, blue, matching grips
1937 S/42 sn 7408z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 9156 z, SE63 DE63, all blue. Rear hump. 2 matching mags SW63.
1937 S/42 sn 9551z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, hump
1937 S/42 sn 367, SE63 SE63 (both small) MTP; Mauser hump.
1937 S/42, sn 487, SE63(Large) SE63(Small) MTP, blued; Police 2 mm
1937 S/42 sn 2460ns, SE/63, SE/63 (small), MTP
1937 S/42 sn 3060ns, SE/63, SE/63, MTP
1937 S/42 sn 3513ns, SE/63, SE/63, MTP
1937. S/42, sn 4177, SE/63,SE/63, MTP (all blue)
1937 S/42, sn 4437ns, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 6187, SE/63 SE 63, hump, all blue
1937 S/42, sn 6629, DE63 DE63, Strawed, humped frame & matching mag.???
1937 S/42, sn 7219ns, SE/63,(SE/63 smaller size) MTP
1937 S/42 sn 8831ns, SE/63, SE/63, MTP
1937 S/42, sn 572a, SE/63 (SE/63 smaller size) MTP
1937 S/42, sn 1982a, SE/63 (large), SE/63 (small), MTP, hump present, no blue (finish removed from entire firearm). It appears that the small parts had been blued.
1937 S/42, sn 2345a, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1937. S/42 sn 3746a,SE/63,SE/63, MTP
1937. S/42 sn 4376a,SE/63,SE/63, MTP (all blue)
1937 S/42, sn 6054a, SE63 SE63 MTP, all blue, Mauser hump.
1937 S/42, sn 6295a, SE63 SE63 MTP, all blue, matching grips
1937 S/42, sn 6387a, SE/83 SE/63 (the 83 is definite the 63 is from a worn die?)MTP
1937 S/42, sn 8091a, SE/63 SE/63
1937 S/42, sn 9440a, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 150b, SE/63 SE/63 MTP (first SE/63 may also be an SE/83).
1937 S/42, sn 8xxb, SE/63 SE/63 MTP (Simpsons list)

1938 S/42, sn 2084b, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 5039b SE63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 5304b, SE/63 SE/63 MTP(not certain, 63 or 83)
1938 S/42, sn 7288b, SE/83 SE/83 MTP(hard to tell 63 or 83)
1938,S/42, sn 9210b, SE/63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 3364c, SE/63 SE/63 MTP(not certain, 63 or 83)
1938 S/42, sn 3922c, SE/63, SE/63
1938 S42, sn 7171c, SE63, matching mag SE63
1938 S/42, sn 7358c, SE/83, SE/63, MTP
1938 S/42 sn 9740c, ----KM N3726
1938 S/42, sn 1065d, SE/63,SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 1901d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP with 2 matching mags SE/63
1938 S/42, sn 3446d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn3742d, SE/83 SE/63 MTP Mag SE/83 #1274L
1938 S/42, sn 5392d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 5972d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 6601d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 6719d, SE/83 SE/83 MTP (hard to tell 83 or 63)
1938 S/42, sn 514e, SE/63 SE/63 MTP (Hard to tell, with a 10x glass, I say SE/63)
1938 S/42 sn 2036e, ----KM N3048
1938 S/42 sn 898f, ----KM O.3573
1938,S/42, sn 4263f, SE/63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 4694f, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 9xxxf, DE/83 DE/63
1938 S/42, sn 1542g, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 7433g SE/83 SE/63 MTP (SE/83 hard to tell)
1938 S42, sn 7857g, SE63
1938 S/42, sn 593h, SE/63 SE/63, KM O.3189
1938 S/42 sn 599h, ----KM O.3276
1938 S/42 sn 1872h, ----KM N3580
1938 S/42 sn 148i, ----KM N2940
1938 S/42 sn 164i, ----KM N2442
1938,S/42, sn 231i, SE/63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 586i, ----KM N2676
1938 S/42 sn 596i, ----KM N3141
1938 S42, sn 1038i, SE/63, matching mag SE63
1938 S/42, sn 1049i, SE/83, SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn1083i, SE/63, SE/63, MTP KM N2936
1938 S/42 sn 1137i, ----KM N2861
1938 S/42 sn 1376i, ----KM N3431
1938 S/42 sn 1614i, ----KM N3286
1938 S/42 sn 1618i, ----KM N3289
1938 S/42 sn 1632i, ----KM N3342
1938 S/42 sn 1862i, ----KM N3302
1938 S/42, sn 2224i,---- KM N2955
1938 S/42, sn 2197i, SE/63, SE/63, N/2911,
1938 S/42, sn 2474i,---- KM N2988
1938 S/42, sn 2482i, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 2498i, SE/63, SE/63, MTP KM O.3705 (refinished)
1938 S/42, sn 2597i,---- KM N3993
1938 S/42, sn 2661i,---- KM N3661
1938 S/42, sn 4688i, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 4840i, SE83 (SE?3 smaller size)MTP (2 mat. mags SE83)
1938 S/42, sn 5912 i, SE/63 SE/63; mag: 5912 / i / + / SE/63
1938 S/42, sn 6796i, SE63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 6834i,---- KM N3690
1938 S/42, sn 7289i, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938, S/42, sn 7743i (or b?) Delete?
1938 S/42, sn 9740i,---- KM N3726
1938 S/42, sn 9955i,---- KM N4072
1938 S/42, sn 9988i,---- KM N2646
1938 S/42, sn 1242k, SE63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 2737k, SE63 SE63,MTP magazine SE/83
1938 S/42 sn 5808k SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 7289k, ----KM O.3240
1938 S/42, sn 9307k, SE63 SE63,MTP matching magazine SE/63
1938 S/42, sn 1832L,---- KM N3342
1938 S/42, sn 1932L ,---- KM N3309
1938 S/42 sn 2037L SE63 SE63 MTP---- KM N3059
1938 S/42, sn 2060L,---- KM N3315
1938 S/42 sn 2390L, ----KM O.3024
1938 S/42, sn 2476L,---- KM N2458
1938 S/42 sn 2833L SE63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 3087L,---- KM N2468
1938 S/42, sn 4030L,---- KM N2986
1938 S/42, sn 6318L, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 8611L SE63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 9529L,---- KM N4005
1938 S/42, sn 9768L,---- KM N2729
1938 S/42, sn 9955L,---- KM N4070
1938 S/42, sn 36m,---- KM N2740
1938 S/42, sn 214m, SE/63 SE/63, KM N.2752, mag.829s SE/63, N 2397
1938 S/42, sn 567m,---- KM N3732
1938 S/42 sn 578m, ----KM O.3654
1938 S/42, sn 599m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP; KM N 4660 back strap
1938 S/42, sn 610m, ---- KM N4760
1938 S/42, sn 635m,---- KM N2738
1938 S/42, sn 717m,---- KM N2670
1938 S/42, sn 746m,---- KM N2531
1938 S/42, sn 769m,---- KM N4673
1938 S/42, sn 831m,---- KM N3628
1938 S/42, sn 1033m,---- KM N2809
1938 S/42 sn 1035m, ----KM O.3447
1938 S/42, sn 1042m,---- KM N2792
1938 S/42, sn 1074m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 1119m,---- KM N2565
1938 S/42 sn 1121m, ----KM O.3551
1938 S/42 sn 1193m, ----KM O.3490
1938 S/42, sn 1554m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP, 2 matching E/83 mags
1938 S/42, sn 2176m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP,---- KM N/2668
1938 S/42, sn 2634m SE/83 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 3797m SE/63(large) SE/63(small), 2 m mags SE/83
1938 S/42, sn 3483m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP mat. mag SE/83
1938,S/42, sn 7492m, SE/63 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 8098 m, SE83 SE63, MTP matched mag SE 83 rear frame hump.
1938 S/42, sn 9104m, SE83 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42 sn 9646m, ----KM O.3468
1938 S/42 sn 9750m, ----KM O.3558
1938 S/42, sn 9800m,---- KM N3591
1938 S/42 sn 75n E/83 E/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 80n, ---- KM N3424
1938 S/42, sn 593n, SE63(l) SE63(s) MTP, KM N3463
1938 S/42, sn 1043n, SE63 SE63 MTP, 2mm, Navy 0.3397
1938 S/42, sn 1142n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 1424n SE83 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 1838n, SE/83, SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 1872n,---- KM N3580
1938 S/42, sn 2286n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP; mg E/83
1938 S/42, sn 2654n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 3334n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP 2matched mags with SE/83.
1938 S/42, sn 3413n, SE/83 SE/63, MTP, two SE 83 matched mags.
1938 S/42, sn 4247n SE83 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 4797n SE83 SE63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 5146n SE/83 SE/63, matching mag .

1938 S/42 sn. 8822e bore gage: 8,82 (need acceptance stamps)


Additional 1937 and 1938 serial numbers and descriptions of the right receiver acceptance stamps will help determining the transition from DE/63 to SW/63 and the transition from DE/63 to DE/83. This information would be greatly appreciated and reported on this Forum.
Thanks
Jan

[maddog350gt]

Jan,

1938 S/42 sn 4688 i SE/63 SE/63 MTP

Hope this helps,

Bob M.

[John Sabato]

This is the best I could get the focus Jan... hope this helps.

1937 S/42 SN# 8091a



Best regards,

John Sabato

[Jan C Still]

Bob
Thanks for the information. I have updated the list above.
John
Thanks, I can not be sure if 63 or 83. Perhaps the owner can look.
Jan

[John Sabato]

Jan I have sent a request to the son of the owner to confirm the data for you... the gun is over 150 miles from me...and the owning vet no longer has eyes that can see things that small... I will let you know when and if I get the info. Sorry my hand wasn't so steady when I took this photo months ago...

[Jan C Still]

John
Thanks.
I have updated the above list.
Jan

[trigger643]

1937 S/42, sn 1860 t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP

[Jan C Still]

Trigger
Thanks for the information. Table updated.
Jan

[Aaron]

Serial no. 1166s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP

[Jan C Still]

Aaron
That must be a 1937 S/42, sn 1166s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
Thanks
Jan

[tracyp]

1937 S/42, sn 8044 q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP

Tracy

[Jan C Still]

Tracy
Thanks for the information. Table updated.
Jan

[Jan C Still]

Note: the "83' in the E/83 is not well formed and the "8" looks somewhat like a "6" slightly modified to forum an "8". See attached photograph. Shown is a SE/83 left and a SE63 right.
Jan

[Vlim]

Hi,

Late 1937 S/42 150b.

SE/63 SE/63 MTP (first SE/63 may also be an SE/83).

[Jan C Still]

Gerben
Thanks for the information. Table updated. There are reports similar to yours; that in the 1937-1938 "b" and "c" suffix range, it is difficult to determine the difference between the "63" and "83".
Jan

[Edward Tinker]

Bad die Jan? An 8 or a 6 struck with a dull die would cause problems?

[Jan C Still]

Ed
Dies usually have small parts break off or wear down. The photo shown (1938 sn 2654)above definitley has the top loop of the "8" completed and I would estimate that it is a correct "8".

The various photographs of magazines and right receiver stamps indicates original "8" stamps on the Lugers in the 1938 S/42, 599m to 2654n serial range. However, these "8"s are not well formed. They looks like a "6" that had the top loop completed to make the "8".
Jan

[jamese]

Jan,
1937 S/42, sn2322-q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1937 S/42, sn 4437-ns, SE/63 SE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 7288-b, SE/83 SE/83 MTP

On the 1938 its hard to tell 83 or 63, I can post a photo if you need it

Jim

[Jan C Still]

Jim
Thanks for the data. Table updated. Photographs of your 1938 would be much appreciated.
Jan

[jamese]

Jan,

this is the best I could do on the photo , my cam is not that good



Jim