nickel luger

vikingthor · 08-05-2005, 08:20 PM

I have a p08 luger, coded 41 BYF, serial number #8359, and all numbers
match. It is nickel plated, with the nicest ivory grips, with eagles on
them. three mags and a orginal little box of ammo. trying to figure it's
worth.
Any ideas guys, I shot pic's but I want to do it again, doesn't show the
detail of the grips or the whole piece.
thanks
vikingthor

Edward Tinker · 08-05-2005, 08:41 PM

A nickle sells for less than a normal shooter. I sold one for $450 recently, so around there.

I doubt the grips are actually ivory, more than likely plastic ones from the 60's or 70's.

Can you send pics to me weimar_lugers@comcast.net

Welcome to the forum, I can move this to new collectors if you want. If it stays here in the trader section, it should have a price.

What are the mags and ammo?

Ed

vikingthor · 08-05-2005, 10:52 PM

We tested the grips they are not plastic, they really are ivory.
I will take some better photo's and post them tommorrow Ed, We used a hot iron and you can barely tell, used the iron on a set of wood grips, and they started smoking.
sure not plastic.
thanks
steve

Dwight Gruber · 08-06-2005, 12:14 AM

If the grips really are ivory, and you really are determined to sell this combination, you would be well advised to pick up a regular pair of grips to put on the gun, and sell the grips by themselves, on ebay if no one here is interested in them. You might expect to get $150-$200 for them.

--Dwight

Hugh · 08-06-2005, 10:43 PM

vikingthor,

If you want to sell the grips, I'm interested!

vikingthor · 08-08-2005, 02:20 PM

I have better pictures of the pistol and grips, anyone interested send me and e-mail, elhaz@comcast.net
thanks
steve

lugerholsterrepair · 08-08-2005, 07:43 PM

Steve, To test for ivory it is necessary to heat the grips enough to create smoke. The smoke should smell like burning hair if they are Ivory. To do this you can remove a grip and on the back and touch a needle heated to red hot. It will let off a little puff of smoke and do little or no damage if Ivory. A flat iron will not do the trick...Wood smokes at a different temperature than Ivory.Ivory also has a look and texture to it, linier cracks and a mellow yellow color. Look on the back of the grips, they should look different than the front and perhaps you can see the texture and color. The front of these look awfully white and shiney, maybe bone..They also look to be Mexican manufacture from the carving. Jerry Burney

Dwight Gruber · 08-08-2005, 08:13 PM

Steve,

To elaborate a bit on Jerry's comment, the red-hot needle test on plastic grips will enter the material and smoke and smell like plastic. There is a composite ivory material, finely ground or powdered ivory suspended in a resin. If you try the test on this material you will get the smell of burning resin, different from both hair and plastic.

I agree that the surface of the grips look pretty shiny. The lack of a mellow yellow color may not be diagnostic, this color only comes with use. My own ivory grips were parchment white until I installed them on a Luger and started shooting it.

The grip backs would be interesting.

--Dwight

Hugh · 08-08-2005, 10:06 PM

Steve,

If you look very closely, you should be able to see "grain" or growth lines in real ivory.

John Sabato · 08-09-2005, 05:36 AM

I concur with Jerry (leatherholsterrepair) that the grips look mexican in origin to me... The fit of the grips to this Luger is not real close... So I would speculate that they were not specifically made and fitted for this particular Luger... but produced for sale.

Whether genuine Ivory or not, the poor fit will put off most buyers...

I also concur with Dwight, that your course of action to get the best price if you are interested in selling the items would be to put a better fitting pair of inexpensive grips on the gun and sell the grips and gun separately...

Welcome to the Lugerforum

08-05-2005, 08:20 PM	#1
vikingthor New User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	nickel luger I have a p08 luger, coded 41 BYF, serial number #8359, and all numbers match. It is nickel plated, with the nicest ivory grips, with eagles on them. three mags and a orginal little box of ammo. trying to figure it's worth. Any ideas guys, I shot pic's but I want to do it again, doesn't show the detail of the grips or the whole piece. thanks vikingthor

08-05-2005, 10:52 PM	#3
vikingthor New User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	grips We tested the grips they are not plastic, they really are ivory. I will take some better photo's and post them tommorrow Ed, We used a hot iron and you can barely tell, used the iron on a set of wood grips, and they started smoking. sure not plastic. thanks steve

08-06-2005, 10:43 PM	#5
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	vikingthor, If you want to sell the grips, I'm interested! __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

08-08-2005, 02:20 PM	#6
vikingthor New User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	41 byf nickel luger I have better pictures of the pistol and grips, anyone interested send me and e-mail, elhaz@comcast.net thanks steve

08-08-2005, 07:43 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Steve, To test for ivory it is necessary to heat the grips enough to create smoke. The smoke should smell like burning hair if they are Ivory. To do this you can remove a grip and on the back and touch a needle heated to red hot. It will let off a little puff of smoke and do little or no damage if Ivory. A flat iron will not do the trick...Wood smokes at a different temperature than Ivory.Ivory also has a look and texture to it, linier cracks and a mellow yellow color. Look on the back of the grips, they should look different than the front and perhaps you can see the texture and color. The front of these look awfully white and shiney, maybe bone..They also look to be Mexican manufacture from the carving. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-05-2005, 08:41 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	A nickle sells for less than a normal shooter. I sold one for $450 recently, so around there. I doubt the grips are actually ivory, more than likely plastic ones from the 60's or 70's. Can you send pics to me weimar_lugers@comcast.net Welcome to the forum, I can move this to new collectors if you want. If it stays here in the trader section, it should have a price. What are the mags and ammo? Ed

08-06-2005, 12:14 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,899 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,303 Times in 429 Posts	If the grips really are ivory, and you really are determined to sell this combination, you would be well advised to pick up a regular pair of grips to put on the gun, and sell the grips by themselves, on ebay if no one here is interested in them. You might expect to get $150-$200 for them. --Dwight

08-08-2005, 08:13 PM	#8
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,899 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,303 Times in 429 Posts	Steve, To elaborate a bit on Jerry's comment, the red-hot needle test on plastic grips will enter the material and smoke and smell like plastic. There is a composite ivory material, finely ground or powdered ivory suspended in a resin. If you try the test on this material you will get the smell of burning resin, different from both hair and plastic. I agree that the surface of the grips look pretty shiny. The lack of a mellow yellow color may not be diagnostic, this color only comes with use. My own ivory grips were parchment white until I installed them on a Luger and started shooting it. The grip backs would be interesting. --Dwight

08-08-2005, 10:06 PM	#9
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Steve, If you look very closely, you should be able to see "grain" or growth lines in real ivory. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

08-09-2005, 05:36 AM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I concur with Jerry (leatherholsterrepair) that the grips look mexican in origin to me... The fit of the grips to this Luger is not real close... So I would speculate that they were not specifically made and fitted for this particular Luger... but produced for sale. Whether genuine Ivory or not, the poor fit will put off most buyers... I also concur with Dwight, that your course of action to get the best price if you are interested in selling the items would be to put a better fitting pair of inexpensive grips on the gun and sell the grips and gun separately... Welcome to the Lugerforum __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*