A Heck Of A Shooter

cirelaw · 05-01-2014, 04:41 PM

I just purchased my first shooter having never fired a luger in 15 years. I received mine today from George Andersoon. He obviously designed it to be very special. Here is His description: "Its a reblued 1917 Erfurt. I changed the fireing pin for a fluted Mauser fireing pin. I changed the magazine for a post war East German Haenel Schmeisser mag. Both these changes are in order to make it a better shooter. It has British proof marks indicating that it went from Germany to England before coming to the U.S." I'll try it out next week! Can hardly wait!! Thank You again my Friend and mentor!

ChrisLL · 05-01-2014, 04:51 PM

That's a beauty, enjoy the shooting!

On a side note, what is the purpose of the fluting, maybe weight reduction or ??

sheepherder · 05-01-2014, 07:09 PM

What is that little tool in the 4th picture???

Haven't shot in 15 years???

Welcome to my world!!!

(Who has the time??? And bending all the way down to pick up empties?!?!...Torture...)

cirelaw · 05-01-2014, 07:16 PM

Its a little mag loader made by one of our members! Its really great and no problem 7 rounds~ He tools it himself and should patent it! This will be my first attempt at loading and fireing a luger. Fifteen lugers later and ten years I can finally fire a luger with no worry! What a rare privalege!! ~Eric

mrerick · 05-01-2014, 08:26 PM

The fluted firing pin was introduced by Mauser. It's purpose was to allow high pressure gasses to bypass the firing pin in the case of primers backing out or puncturing.

On the older design, the pin effectively sealed the area behind the breech block's firing pin hole, and damage would occur to the breech block.

Marc

cirelaw · 05-01-2014, 08:54 PM

Every luger has a story!

Sergio Natali · 05-02-2014, 03:09 AM

Hi Eric,

I'm really glad that you bought yourself such a nice shooter, although it's a bit old, surely you have it already had checked by a serious amourer, in any case I believe that especially old WWI Lugers should never be fired with modern high speed/high power ammuntions as they might be structurally unsound.
IMHO
Safe shooting Eric!

Sergio

alanint · 05-02-2014, 06:47 AM

Interesting that the British, (an assumption) stamped it "Made in Austria" upon importation, rather than "Made in Germany"

nukem556 · 05-02-2014, 07:53 AM

I think its a Boehler Stahl replacement barrel, that's why it's marked "Made in Austria" Odd that its Brit proofed, though.

John Sabato · 05-02-2014, 08:28 AM

Definitely an Austrian made barrel... proofed during it's time in the UK. A very nice shooter Eric...

sheepherder · 05-02-2014, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukem556

I think its a Boehler Stahl replacement barrel, that's why it's marked "Made in Austria" Odd that its Brit proofed, though.

Aren't Bohler barrels stamped 'Bohler' on the top of the barrel???

cirelaw · 05-02-2014, 09:03 AM

It appears more than once~ Eric

sheepherder · 05-02-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

It appears more than once~ Eric

It's all over the place!

Crown over BNP...'British Nitro Proof'???

ithacaartist · 05-02-2014, 09:13 AM

Great new shooter, Eric. I know you'll have a "blast"!!

cirelaw · 05-02-2014, 09:22 AM

First of all, Thank you both! According to George the gun spent time in England after it left Germany and that might explain these unusual proofs. I wonder how that happened? Gives a whole new meaning to "shooter" !

wlyon · 05-02-2014, 09:53 AM

Eric
These proofs are not unusual. They are typical British proofs. Fire arms brought into England are required to be proofed. Should make a good shooter. Have fun. Bill

John Sabato · 05-02-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Aren't Bohler barrels stamped 'Bohler' on the top of the barrel???

Just like most manufacturers, there never is a "normal"... it varies with the production runs. More than likely, during at least one run, these stamps were overlooked, or maybe not even thought of, if it was one of the early production runs.

As a matter of fact Rich, are you one of those who never does something the same way twice?

cirelaw · 05-02-2014, 10:16 AM

Every luger has a unique history. One reason why we love them!

cirelaw · 05-02-2014, 10:21 AM

I found an article on British proofs~ http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...roof-test.html and European standards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commiss...Feu_Portatives

sheepherder · 05-02-2014, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

As a matter of fact Rich, are you one of those who never does something the same way twice?

I am one of those people who can't remember how to do something the same way twice...

05-01-2014, 04:41 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A Heck Of A Shooter I just purchased my first shooter having never fired a luger in 15 years. I received mine today from George Andersoon. He obviously designed it to be very special. Here is His description: "Its a reblued 1917 Erfurt. I changed the fireing pin for a fluted Mauser fireing pin. I changed the magazine for a post war East German Haenel Schmeisser mag. Both these changes are in order to make it a better shooter. It has British proof marks indicating that it went from Germany to England before coming to the U.S." I'll try it out next week! Can hardly wait!! Thank You again my Friend and mentor! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by cirelaw; 05-02-2014 at 12:48 PM.

05-01-2014, 07:09 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	What is that little tool in the 4th picture??? Haven't shot in 15 years??? Welcome to my world!!! (Who has the time??? And bending all the way down to pick up empties?!?!...Torture...) __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

05-01-2014, 07:16 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Its a little mag loader made by one of our members! Its really great and no problem 7 rounds~ He tools it himself and should patent it! This will be my first attempt at loading and fireing a luger. Fifteen lugers later and ten years I can finally fire a luger with no worry! What a rare privalege!! ~Eric Last edited by cirelaw; 05-01-2014 at 10:41 PM.

05-01-2014, 08:26 PM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	The fluted firing pin was introduced by Mauser. It's purpose was to allow high pressure gasses to bypass the firing pin in the case of primers backing out or puncturing. On the older design, the pin effectively sealed the area behind the breech block's firing pin hole, and damage would occur to the breech block. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-01-2014, 08:54 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Every luger has a story! Last edited by cirelaw; 05-01-2014 at 09:41 PM.

05-01-2014, 04:51 PM	#2
ChrisLL User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New England Posts: 70 Thanks: 79 Thanked 28 Times in 19 Posts	That's a beauty, enjoy the shooting! On a side note, what is the purpose of the fluting, maybe weight reduction or ??

05-02-2014, 03:09 AM	#7
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Hi Eric, I'm really glad that you bought yourself such a nice shooter, although it's a bit old, surely you have it already had checked by a serious amourer, in any case I believe that especially old WWI Lugers should never be fired with modern high speed/high power ammuntions as they might be structurally unsound. IMHO Safe shooting Eric! Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

05-02-2014, 06:47 AM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Interesting that the British, (an assumption) stamped it "Made in Austria" upon importation, rather than "Made in Germany"

05-02-2014, 07:53 AM	#9
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	I think its a Boehler Stahl replacement barrel, that's why it's marked "Made in Austria" Odd that its Brit proofed, though.

05-02-2014, 08:28 AM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Definitely an Austrian made barrel... proofed during it's time in the UK. A very nice shooter Eric... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-02-2014, 09:03 AM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I noticed this unusual proof! It appears more than once~ Eric Attached Thumbnails

05-02-2014, 09:13 AM	#14
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,336 Thanks: 7,244 Thanked 2,556 Times in 1,361 Posts	Great new shooter, Eric. I know you'll have a "blast"!! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-02-2014, 09:22 AM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	First of all, Thank you both! According to George the gun spent time in England after it left Germany and that might explain these unusual proofs. I wonder how that happened? Gives a whole new meaning to "shooter" !

05-02-2014, 09:53 AM	#16
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,632 Thanks: 3,170 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	Eric These proofs are not unusual. They are typical British proofs. Fire arms brought into England are required to be proofed. Should make a good shooter. Have fun. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

05-02-2014, 10:16 AM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Every luger has a unique history. One reason why we love them!

05-02-2014, 10:21 AM	#19
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I found an article on British proofs~ http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...roof-test.html and European standards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commiss...Feu_Portatives Last edited by cirelaw; 05-02-2014 at 01:01 PM.