Election Night ! - Page 2

sheepherder · 11-09-2016, 01:27 PM

I watched CNN at ~noon today, they were lamenting that Trump won because too many voters stayed home and didn't vote...Hispanics, blacks, the uneducated...My local station (a CBS affiliate) reported that voter turnout was greater (75% vs 70%) than the 2012 election...

"Exit polls"...Now the talking heads are saying that voters gave misleading information when they left the polls and were interviewed...Nobody was asking questions at my polling place...I visited another polling place (a library in the nearest city), still no interviewers...

Where were all these 'exit polls' taking place??? Certainly not in my predominantly blue collar neighborhoods...

Why would anyone lie about how/why they voted??? I would be happy to elect a woman president - I think Sarah Palin would have been a viable candidate, if she had had four or eight years as vice with McCain as president...

Now they're talking about Trump structuring a third party separate from the Republican party...I say, good on him!

Edward Tinker · 11-09-2016, 01:33 PM

A 3rd - viable party would be very nice

I would also like to see more independent newscasts. I am amazed that i see the same stories and SAME footage on two different stations.

mrerick · 11-09-2016, 01:38 PM

Oh the horror!!! The press and polling organizations just don't want to accept responsibility for being negligent...

We can sympathize with their problem... Their advertising revenues have sunk to the point that they had to eliminate much of their staff - including a number of very competent journalists. They probably pruned away the expensive (and competent) ones, and kept many younger, more inexperienced and more socially relevant appearing reporters. You know - the ones with less experience to base their judgement upon...

Now - what to do! We press outlets have their image to uphold and their legacy to protect.

Unfortunately, like much of the progressive politicians' smoke screens, American workers - voters with a stake in the economy and their communities - can see through all this.

Just as the lies the press publishes and the progressives tell about the Second Amendment are proved false by gun sales, the lies the press publishes about conservatives have been proven by President Elect Trump.

I feel like we've dodged a bullet, but that the shooters are still out there, biding their time. Let's get the Supreme Court issues wrapped up for the rest of our generations, and get on with responsible governance. As a Second Amendment oriented fiscal conservative and social libertarian, in truth, nobody in public office really represents me. I have to take the good where I find it...

Olle · 11-09-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

I watched CNN at ~noon today, they were lamenting that Trump won because too many voters stayed home and didn't vote...Hispanics, blacks, the uneducated...My local station (a CBS affiliate) reported that voter turnout was greater (75% vs 70%) than the 2012 election...

If you turn it around, they're saying that Hilary's supporters are predominantly those who are so lazy that they can't even drag their behinds to the booth.

Personally, I believe it's just BS excuses anyway. Like you say, the turnout is proof enough that this is what the people wanted.

George Anderson · 11-09-2016, 04:08 PM

When does Obama issue a blanket pardon for Hillary? Has Comey started working on his resume yet?

mrerick · 11-09-2016, 04:24 PM

Be careful what you do with the shoes, Barry...

I don't think we're in Kansas any more...

alvin · 11-13-2016, 11:14 AM

CNN is very biased in this election.

I learned a new 3-character Chinese noun on wenxuecity.com (a misc website). The noun has been used to label CNN frequently in the past due to they liked pointing fingers on many world affairs. Not sure there is a direct English translation... by meaning, it's "a whore pretending to be Holy Mother of Christ".... Well, Beijing must like CNN on US election,,, at least, not labeling CNN this time.

Zorba · 11-13-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

Be careful what you do with the shoes, Barry...

I don't think we're in Kansas any more...

Ding Dong!!

kurusu · 11-13-2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

Ding Dong!!

The witch is never dead. At least outside of OZ.

"Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom"

Zorba · 11-13-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kurusu

The witch is never dead. At least outside of OZ.

"Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom"

True enough - but at least THIS one is!

cirelaw · 11-13-2016, 06:54 PM

And the moon shall always rise another day~

Ben M. · 11-13-2016, 09:04 PM

thanks goodness for the deporables !!!

our state of michigan is red now.

sheepherder · 11-13-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben M.

our state of michigan is red now.

Unfortunately, I live in a blue state.

In fact, if it weren't for New York City, we also would be red [source: Buffalo News]. IMHO, NYC should be a state all by itself. Did you know that new York City has more people than NINE US states combined???

New York City - 8.406 million (2013)

New Hampshire 1,326,813
Rhode Island 1,055,173
Montana 1,023,579
Delaware 935,614
South Dakota 853,175
North Dakota 739,482
Alaska 737,732
Vermont 626,011
Wyoming 584,153

alvin · 11-14-2016, 05:26 AM

Just read some Yahoo News reporting riot in Portland OR. That's a little bit surprising to me -- is Portland a big city with many liberals?

Another news reported that Trump reconfirmed that he planned to deport 2 to 3 million undocumented immigrants who have criminal records. This number is astonishing. If I remembered right, there are 12 million undocumented immigrants, and 25% has criminal records????!!! If he does this not in a controlled way but in big hurry, there could be a danger of causing social unrest in some cities.

DavidJayUden · 11-14-2016, 08:30 AM

Let's take a deep breath before we start hyperventilating about what could be.
The liberals seems to have that covered quite well.
dju

cirelaw · 11-14-2016, 08:58 AM

Finally we can all wake-up with a smile of hope and vigor!! Yaaaaaa! Thank You God!!!

Olle · 11-14-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin

Just read some Yahoo News reporting riot in Portland OR. That's a little bit surprising to me -- is Portland a big city with many liberals?

Another news reported that Trump reconfirmed that he planned to deport 2 to 3 million undocumented immigrants who have criminal records. This number is astonishing. If I remembered right, there are 12 million undocumented immigrants, and 25% has criminal records????!!! If he does this not in a controlled way but in big hurry, there could be a danger of causing social unrest in some cities.

There are checks and balances that prevent Trump from being too radical, so it won't be any kind of overnight revolution. Some doomsday prophets obviously think that he's going to pack them all into cattle trains and send them south, but that won't happen. It all takes time, and new ideas take longer. If too many think it's too controversial, it may not happen at all. Just look at what happened to Obama's great vision of gun control, and you'll see what I mean.

sheepherder · 11-14-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin

I learned a new 3-character Chinese noun... by meaning, it's "a whore pretending to be Holy Mother of Christ"....

I wish you had posted that two weeks ago...Would have made a great screensaver...Avatar...T-shirt...etc...

George Anderson · 11-15-2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

i wish you had posted that two weeks ago...would have made a great screensaver...avatar...t-shirt...etc...

it's perfect!

cirelaw · 11-15-2016, 10:02 AM

Besides some idiots, I already feel a wave of optimism starting to evolve. Politicians make lousy presidents. Eric

11-09-2016, 01:27 PM	#21
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	I watched CNN at ~noon today, they were lamenting that Trump won because too many voters stayed home and didn't vote...Hispanics, blacks, the uneducated...My local station (a CBS affiliate) reported that voter turnout was greater (75% vs 70%) than the 2012 election... "Exit polls"...Now the talking heads are saying that voters gave misleading information when they left the polls and were interviewed...Nobody was asking questions at my polling place...I visited another polling place (a library in the nearest city), still no interviewers... Where were all these 'exit polls' taking place??? Certainly not in my predominantly blue collar neighborhoods... Why would anyone lie about how/why they voted??? I would be happy to elect a woman president - I think Sarah Palin would have been a viable candidate, if she had had four or eight years as vice with McCain as president... Now they're talking about Trump structuring a third party separate from the Republican party...I say, good on him! __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

11-09-2016, 01:38 PM	#23
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Oh the horror!!! The press and polling organizations just don't want to accept responsibility for being negligent... We can sympathize with their problem... Their advertising revenues have sunk to the point that they had to eliminate much of their staff - including a number of very competent journalists. They probably pruned away the expensive (and competent) ones, and kept many younger, more inexperienced and more socially relevant appearing reporters. You know - the ones with less experience to base their judgement upon... Now - what to do! We press outlets have their image to uphold and their legacy to protect. Unfortunately, like much of the progressive politicians' smoke screens, American workers - voters with a stake in the economy and their communities - can see through all this. Just as the lies the press publishes and the progressives tell about the Second Amendment are proved false by gun sales, the lies the press publishes about conservatives have been proven by President Elect Trump. I feel like we've dodged a bullet, but that the shooters are still out there, biding their time. Let's get the Supreme Court issues wrapped up for the rest of our generations, and get on with responsible governance. As a Second Amendment oriented fiscal conservative and social libertarian, in truth, nobody in public office really represents me. I have to take the good where I find it... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-09-2016, 04:24 PM	#26
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Be careful what you do with the shoes, Barry... I don't think we're in Kansas any more... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-13-2016, 11:14 AM	#27
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	CNN is very biased in this election. I learned a new 3-character Chinese noun on wenxuecity.com (a misc website). The noun has been used to label CNN frequently in the past due to they liked pointing fingers on many world affairs. Not sure there is a direct English translation... by meaning, it's "a whore pretending to be Holy Mother of Christ".... Well, Beijing must like CNN on US election,,, at least, not labeling CNN this time. Attached Thumbnails

11-13-2016, 06:54 PM	#31
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	And the moon shall always rise another day~ Attached Thumbnails

11-09-2016, 01:33 PM	#22
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	A 3rd - viable party would be very nice I would also like to see more independent newscasts. I am amazed that i see the same stories and SAME footage on two different stations.

11-09-2016, 04:08 PM	#25
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	When does Obama issue a blanket pardon for Hillary? Has Comey started working on his resume yet?

11-13-2016, 09:04 PM	#32
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 474 Thanks: 82 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	thanks goodness for the deporables !!! our state of michigan is red now.

11-14-2016, 05:26 AM	#34
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Just read some Yahoo News reporting riot in Portland OR. That's a little bit surprising to me -- is Portland a big city with many liberals? Another news reported that Trump reconfirmed that he planned to deport 2 to 3 million undocumented immigrants who have criminal records. This number is astonishing. If I remembered right, there are 12 million undocumented immigrants, and 25% has criminal records????!!! If he does this not in a controlled way but in big hurry, there could be a danger of causing social unrest in some cities.

11-14-2016, 08:30 AM	#35
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Let's take a deep breath before we start hyperventilating about what could be. The liberals seems to have that covered quite well. dju

11-14-2016, 08:58 AM	#36
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Finally we can all wake-up with a smile of hope and vigor!! Yaaaaaa! Thank You God!!!

11-15-2016, 10:02 AM	#40
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Besides some idiots, I already feel a wave of optimism starting to evolve. Politicians make lousy presidents. Eric