Anyone getting a STG-44 (22 LR) carbine? - Page 2

alanint · 11-12-2012, 09:29 AM

But not always at a reasonable price. I lost $1,500 to a crook out in WA. state, who was recreating an exact replica of the FJ 42, (first model) in it's original 8mm. configuration. The estimated cost when from an original $4,000 to $10,000, until a number of original depositors banned together and called a halt to the hikes, at which time this crook closed his doors and walked with all the initial investor's money. He got to keep the 2-3 completed prototypes he created and we lost our seed money.
Most of the rare German WW2 guns, (MP44, MkB 42H, FJ 42 first and second mode) are being manufactured in semi and in original calibers or 7.62x39 in Germany at reasonable prices. Our own idiotic gun laws are the only thing preventing us from owning any of these.

Olle · 11-14-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by postino

I got my local GS interested in ordering one...He already has one of ATI's GSG replica .22 rifles...but ATI says they're still not in stock...

http://www.americantactical.us/3108/detail.html

This item is currently out of stock. Click the Notify Me button to be notified when the product becomes available.

...I'm still waiting to be notified...

It might be like that for a while, my gut feeling is that the scalpers are buying every gun they can find. Don't be surprised if you find one for $650-$700 at the next gun show...

rhuff · 11-14-2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

I got my local GS interested in ordering one...He already has one of ATI's GSG replica .22 rifles...but ATI says they're still not in stock...

http://www.americantactical.us/3108/detail.html

This item is currently out of stock. Click the Notify Me button to be notified when the product becomes available.

...I'm still waiting to be notified...

I am doing the same thing for the ATI/GSG 1911-22 with the short (3.2in) barrel. They were supposed to be available in early August, but .......... So I wait.

Ice · 12-01-2012, 06:54 PM

That's a pretty cool semi-aito you bought. Certainly an attention getter. Looking forward to your range report. Enjoyed your post and photos.

Charlie

rolandtg · 12-01-2012, 06:56 PM

Is it full-size? Same size as the originals?

pitsword · 12-01-2012, 08:37 PM

Hey Richie, nice toy. The alloy is "Zamak..sp" a zinc alloy. That is what my GSG 5 is made of. I added a real mp 5 solid stock and real pins and enjoy shooting it. Mags do warrant some watching.
Vince

apis mellifera · 12-01-2012, 08:56 PM

Here is a comparison of a real STG-44 and the .22 version

apis mellifera · 12-01-2012, 08:58 PM

and an overlay. The .22 is in white. Looks like the magazine angle is slightly different and the receiver is more thin.

apis mellifera · 12-01-2012, 10:41 PM

No, it belongs to wiki.

I was just curious how accurate the replica is. It looks pretty close. Much better looking than, say, a .22 Luger or that MG42 dress-up kit for the Ruger 10/22.

rolandtg · 12-01-2012, 11:04 PM

Neat! Looks like a pretty accurate reproduction. It will certainly garner some attention at the range I imagine.

pitsword · 12-02-2012, 10:09 AM

Rich, my '42 Long Branch has a Zamak butt plate. All others that I have had brass. Tell us more about your #5 conversions.

pitsword · 12-02-2012, 01:46 PM

Nice work. Does that sight mount into the ejector screw hole?

rhuff · 12-03-2012, 05:36 PM

There is a nice write up on this weapon in the Jan 2013 issue of Guns Magazine. The author liked it very much, and was impressed with the fit/finish/accuracy of the rifle.

Dan44 · 12-07-2012, 01:08 AM

Have you seen this full auto vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZA8...ature=youtu.be

suum cuique · 12-18-2012, 04:14 PM

GSG StG44 Manufacturer's website with data:
http://www.gsg-waffen.de/site/index..../stg44-tech-de

Or check this out, civilian version of the MG42 (not a full auto version)
http://www.hessenarms.de/

new civilian version of the MP40 as a "semi auto rifle", so called BD38 9mm
http://hza-kulmbach.de/index.php?opt...mid=63&lang=de

Enjoy...

CoyoteM4 · 12-19-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by postino

My apologies to Mike [CoyoteM4] for hijacking his thread...Sorry Mike!

I'm trying to find some 'champage' colored spray paint to do my GSG-StG44 more like the real thing...Here's what I'm aiming for [no pun intended]...(Also need to find some steel-blue spray paint too)...And re-shape the buttstock...

Not a problem, loving the custom work and all the posted info.

alanint · 12-19-2012, 07:11 AM

Remember that only very late war STg44s had these different tones on various parts of the gun. This is because Stg44s were assembled from parts produced by various manufacturers and some were authorized to use what is essentially a clear parkerizing process as a cost cutting measure. You might consider stripping the finish off these parts, if they are metal and finish them with a matt or opaque clear finish.
Also, Brownells has a number of "Gun Kote" spray finish products, which mimick parquerization. These are oven cured finishes and very durable. You might find what you are looking for there.

Olle · 12-19-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

Also, Brownells has a number of "Gun Kote" spray finish products, which mimick parquerization. These are oven cured finishes and very durable. You might find what you are looking for there.

I saw a 1911 that had been sprayed with something like that at a gun show, and it was a dead ringer for Parkerizing. It had the right texture and sheen and it was very thin with no signs of the build-up you see with other spray coatings, so it would have fooled me if the seller hadn't told me. He said it was Duracoat, but that name is used rather loosely so it could just as well be Brownell's own brand.

padredan · 01-18-2013, 02:17 PM

fun, in alot of ways

rhuff · 01-18-2013, 04:06 PM

You look like you are having waaaaay too much fun LOL!!! Enjoy.

12-01-2012, 08:56 PM	#27
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Here is a comparison of a real STG-44 and the .22 version Attached Thumbnails

12-01-2012, 08:58 PM	#28
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	and an overlay. The .22 is in white. Looks like the magazine angle is slightly different and the receiver is more thin. Attached Thumbnails

12-18-2012, 04:14 PM	#35
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	GSG StG44 Manufacturer's website with data: http://www.gsg-waffen.de/site/index..../stg44-tech-de Or check this out, civilian version of the MG42 (not a full auto version) http://www.hessenarms.de/ new civilian version of the MP40 as a "semi auto rifle", so called BD38 9mm http://hza-kulmbach.de/index.php?opt...mid=63&lang=de Enjoy... __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

01-18-2013, 02:17 PM	#39
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	fun, in alot of ways Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

11-12-2012, 09:29 AM	#21
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	But not always at a reasonable price. I lost $1,500 to a crook out in WA. state, who was recreating an exact replica of the FJ 42, (first model) in it's original 8mm. configuration. The estimated cost when from an original $4,000 to $10,000, until a number of original depositors banned together and called a halt to the hikes, at which time this crook closed his doors and walked with all the initial investor's money. He got to keep the 2-3 completed prototypes he created and we lost our seed money. Most of the rare German WW2 guns, (MP44, MkB 42H, FJ 42 first and second mode) are being manufactured in semi and in original calibers or 7.62x39 in Germany at reasonable prices. Our own idiotic gun laws are the only thing preventing us from owning any of these.

12-01-2012, 06:54 PM	#24
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	That's a pretty cool semi-aito you bought. Certainly an attention getter. Looking forward to your range report. Enjoyed your post and photos. Charlie

12-01-2012, 06:56 PM	#25
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 471 Thanks: 361 Thanked 254 Times in 111 Posts	Is it full-size? Same size as the originals?

12-01-2012, 08:37 PM	#26
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,884 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Hey Richie, nice toy. The alloy is "Zamak..sp" a zinc alloy. That is what my GSG 5 is made of. I added a real mp 5 solid stock and real pins and enjoy shooting it. Mags do warrant some watching. Vince

12-01-2012, 10:41 PM	#29
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	No, it belongs to wiki. I was just curious how accurate the replica is. It looks pretty close. Much better looking than, say, a .22 Luger or that MG42 dress-up kit for the Ruger 10/22.

12-01-2012, 11:04 PM	#30
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 471 Thanks: 361 Thanked 254 Times in 111 Posts	Neat! Looks like a pretty accurate reproduction. It will certainly garner some attention at the range I imagine.

12-02-2012, 10:09 AM	#31
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,884 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Rich, my '42 Long Branch has a Zamak butt plate. All others that I have had brass. Tell us more about your #5 conversions.

12-02-2012, 01:46 PM	#32
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,884 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Nice work. Does that sight mount into the ejector screw hole?

12-03-2012, 05:36 PM	#33
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	There is a nice write up on this weapon in the Jan 2013 issue of Guns Magazine. The author liked it very much, and was impressed with the fit/finish/accuracy of the rifle.

12-07-2012, 01:08 AM	#34
Dan44 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Have you seen this full auto vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZA8...ature=youtu.be

12-19-2012, 07:11 AM	#37
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Remember that only very late war STg44s had these different tones on various parts of the gun. This is because Stg44s were assembled from parts produced by various manufacturers and some were authorized to use what is essentially a clear parkerizing process as a cost cutting measure. You might consider stripping the finish off these parts, if they are metal and finish them with a matt or opaque clear finish. Also, Brownells has a number of "Gun Kote" spray finish products, which mimick parquerization. These are oven cured finishes and very durable. You might find what you are looking for there.

01-18-2013, 04:06 PM	#40
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	You look like you are having waaaaay too much fun LOL!!! Enjoy.