Anyone here like machine guns........

[hgreer2]

I would just like to say to all you gentlemen and especially Jerry for reminding me you can still have fun on a forum without watching every little thing you say, to all of you, keep your sense of humor and your passion for the things you enjoy. Thank you !!!

Harry

[hgreer2]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Harry the submachine gun was not developed for urban warfare. However it DOES work well there as you say!

Only the squad leader generally carried an MP40 in the German units. Everyone else carried rifles.

I have heard the the GI that carried the BAR was a favorite target because of his fire power, true ?

Harry

[lugerholsterrepair]

Harry I am sure the target of choice for any enemy Soldier is the squad automatic weapon whatever it might have been. The M-60 gunner was always a favorite target in my squad. That and boneheaded LT's that wouldn't carry a full size M-16 (CAR) a d-handled shovel or sandbags. They stood out like a herpes sore on a prom date. Hard to miss!

[alanint]

The XM177 Colt Sound Moderator was Colt's attempt to make the XM177 series (CAR 15) sound like a full size M16 to avoid this sound vectoring issue. It failed miserably, as anybody who has seem both fired side by side would attest. The VC and NVA would always know who the butter bar was....

[minigun]

I like the Walther subgun. The MPL.

[hgreer2]

Saddam's taste was a little pimpish..................
Harry

[hgreer2]

Drug dealers get in on the act too.

Harry

[A.Mifsin]

Are the Guns full auto or modified to semi auto?
is it legal to own a full auto in the USA.?
Alf.

[hgreer2]

Originally Posted by A.Mifsin

Are the Guns full auto or modified to semi auto?
is it legal to own a full auto in the USA.?
Alf.

All fully auto, all you need is a 300 dollar permit, or whatever it's called. They are illegal in a few states with high crime rates, but not Oklahoma where I live.

Harry

[saab-bob]

Harry
Thanks for the great thread!
Living in CA doesn't give me much of a chance to shoot or view machine guns.So when I do, it is a great treat.
Many years ago I visited the now closed J. Curtis Earl Machine Gun Collection at Falcon Field,in Mesa AZ. What a amazing collection that was.

Have you ever visited the Tojhus Arms Museum in Copenhagen Denmark? If not,add it to your bucket list.
It is suppose to be the largest weapons museum in the world and I believe it!
I visited it BC (Before Kids) ,when I had money. The firearms display began with cannons made of cast iron rods,bound together by cast iron straps.It ended with Honest John rockets and most every firearm in between.
The machine gun collection was very impressive.Almost every variety of machine gun made.Many in the original shipping containers.
The staff had to throw me out at closing time. Those Danes are so punctual!

Bob

[alanint]

A couple of clarifications;

The transfer tax is $200 per gun.

They are not necessarily unlawful in high crime states. They are unlawful in states with Liberal, Leftist goverments.

J Curtis Earl was one of the original, high profile machinegun dealers. His ads used to run in American Rifleman and shotgun news. J Curtis, however, was a bit of a scoundrel. If sent a valuable gun, like a Colt Thompson, for repair, appraisal or sale, you could be sure the original innards would be stripped out and poorer examples or copies replaced.

The old MoD Pattern Room in England was/is by far the largest firearms reference collection in the world, although it has since been split up and sent to several locations after the passing of Herb Woodend, The Pattern Room's curator. It was and still is the most fantastic assemblage of firearms in the world.

[hgreer2]

Originally Posted by alanint

A couple of clarifications;

The transfer tax is $200 per gun.

They are not necessarily unlawful in high crime states. They are unlawful in states with Liberal, Leftist goverments.

J Curtis Earl was one of the original, high profile machinegun dealers. His ads used to run in American Rifleman and shotgun news. J Curtis, however, was a bit of a scoundrel. If sent a valuable gun, like a Colt Thompson, for repair, appraisal or sale, you could be sure the original innards would be stripped out and poorer examples or copies replaced.

The old MoD Pattern Room in England was/is by far the largest firearms reference collection in the world, although it has since been split up and sent to several locations after the recent passing of Herb Woodend, The Pattern Room's curator. It was and still is the most fantastic assemblage of firearms in the world.

Thanks for straightening that out, I wasn't sure.

I would like you to see what you do in June in Oklahoma to have fun. You can shoot ANYTHING.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMcIKdKraRw

Here is what you can rent, you can also buy.

http://www.oklahomafullauto.com/MachineGun.html

Come to Oklahoma, we would love to have you visit, friendly folks, good food and you won't need a sweater.

Harry

[alanint]

I should have noted that States that are run by Liberal, Leftists goverments are BY DEFINITION high crime states!!

Oklahoma does have several, well run shoots every year. I try to attend both Kobb Creek, Kentucky shoots each year.
A friend used to run a really nice shoot in Taos, NM, but stopped organizing it some years ago.
We in Florida are no slouches, having several shoots here per year along with our private shoots every month.
Thanks for the Invite, Harry!

[Norme]

Originally Posted by alanint

I should have noted that States that are run by Liberal, Leftists goverments are BY DIFINITION high crime states!!

Hi Doug, By whose definition? Here, in order, are the top ten States in violent crime:
#1 South Carolina
#2 Tennessee
#3 Nevada
#4 Florida
#5 Louisiana
#6 Alaska
#7 Delaware
#8 Maryland
#9 New Mexico
#10 Michigan
Regards, Norm

[alanint]

Did you notice the little laughing head next to my comment, Norm? That means its tongue in cheek.

That being said, just because your governor may be Conservative, that does not represent the majority of the state. The vast majority of this country leans center-left, according to Gallup;

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/st...filiation.aspx

[Norme]

Actually, Doug, while Denver and Boulder (where I live) are heavily Democratic, the rest of the State is quite red. It's been my experience that it's not politics but real estate, that drives gun regulation. States with a lot of open space, like mine, have very liberal gun laws, while congested cities like Chicago and Washington, DC, try to control gun ownership. Not because they have "liberal, leftist governments", but because they are dangerous places. Best regards, Norm

[alanint]

I'll concede some of that, although it does not explain Connecticut, Michigan, California or New York, for that matter, where there are plenty of wide open spaces outside the liberal run cities, yet the entire state must suffer the anti MG legislation thanks to liberal goverments.
In the vain of previous posts featuring gun bling and impressive gun collections, on a Luger site, I bring it all together with this photo of Herbie Woodend, the long time curator of MoD's Pattern Room, holding a blinged out long barreled Luger. At the time of his death, Herb probably possesed the most profound general firearms knowledge on earth..

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[saab-bob]

Alanint
It is my understanding that to view the Ministry of Defense Pattern Room,you must apply in advance and be approved. Is this correct?
I would love to visit it someday.
Bob

[alanint]

Hi Bob,

Sadly, the collection was split up and moved to Notthingham, Leeds and other locations, so it is no longer all in one place. You did need an appointment to enter and handle the guns, but through several acquaintances strong friendship with Herb, the tour was really "nothing off limits".
I thinks the bulk of the collection is at Notthingham, but someone may correct me on this.

[Ron Wood]

Doug,
Thanks for the photo of Herb. Another legend in our time.