Anyone here like machine guns........

hgreer2 · 06-25-2011, 07:34 PM

I visited a friend this week with deep pockets and a passion for machine guns. You are looking at about a million bucks worth of guns. He has 5000 rounds of ammo for each gun you see.

Please enjoy I did,
Harry

hgreer2 · 06-25-2011, 07:36 PM

A great place to spend the day......

sheepherder · 06-25-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hgreer2

I visited a friend this week with deep pockets and a passion for machine guns...

That's amazing!!!

That you have a friend, I mean...

Seriously, nice collection!

hgreer2 · 06-25-2011, 07:54 PM

I'm really not as bad as you may think, just don't like to be picked on............

Harry

sheepherder · 06-25-2011, 09:06 PM

Does he have a FG 42 Fallschirmjaegergewehr rifle??? Specifically, the one with the sharply raked pistol grip???

hgreer2 · 06-25-2011, 10:21 PM

Man, you just blew by me at 150 MPH, sorry I have no idea what you are asking, but I can find out the next time I talk to him though.

Harry

alanint · 06-25-2011, 11:35 PM

That would be a first model. There are none in the photos and at $100K, plus. There are not many out there.

Ice · 06-26-2011, 06:47 AM

Awesome collection. Stuff that a man's dreams are made of.

Charlie

sheepherder · 06-26-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hgreer2

Man, you just blew by me at 150 MPH, sorry I have no idea what you are asking, but I can find out the next time I talk to him though.

Harry

Wiki link -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FG_42

and a pic - magazine goes in left side, 90º to the receiver -

mrerick · 06-26-2011, 10:16 AM

That Lewis Machine Gun is an interesting firearm.

My father was in the Navy, and trained at Great Lakes Naval Training Center. I stopped by the Center in Illinois a couple of years ago when they were renovating their museum. When I walked in, it was apparent that it wasn't quite open yet...

Some of the Navy cadets were cleaning firearms from the museum collection. The curator saw me, and after we chatted, I offered to help...

You see, they had the Admiral's personal Lewis Machine Gun out and apart on the table, as well as a Spencer Rifle that had been modified as a line thrower.

I spent the afternoon with the cadets learning about both firearms up close and personal.

The museum is at: http://www.greatlakesnavalmuseum.org/ on the web...

That's me with the Spencer rifle on their volunteer page:

http://www.greatlakesnavalmuseum.org/en/volunteer/

Marc

sheepherder · 06-26-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

That would be a first model. There are none in the photos and at $100K, plus. There are not many out there.

Back in the late 70's/80's, my partner Jim and I would take an MG-34 'parts kit' MG (from Golden Enterprises - Sarco's back door) w/dummy receiver to gun shows as a table display...There was another vendor who had a raked-grip FG-42 on display...(this was way before AirSoft had models)...Really interesting; he'd come over and look at our MG-34 and we'd go look at his FG-42...

Sadly, BATF leaned on the organizers and they banned MG displays...Even dummy displays...

I recall reading that Rheinmetall-Borsig had only made ~5,000 FG-42's...Back in the 70's, they were selling for ~$5,000...

Looking at my inflation calculator http://146.142.4.24/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl that translates to ~$20,000 now...

hgreer2 · 06-26-2011, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

That Lewis Machine Gun is an interesting firearm.

My father was in the Navy, and trained at Great Lakes Naval Training Center. I stopped by the Center in Illinois a couple of years ago when they were renovating their museum. When I walked in, it was apparent that it wasn't quite open yet...

Some of the Navy cadets were cleaning firearms from the museum collection. The curator saw me, and after we chatted, I offered to help...

You see, they had the Admiral's personal Lewis Machine Gun out and apart on the table, as well as a Spencer Rifle that had been modified as a line thrower.

I spent the afternoon with the cadets learning about both firearms up close and personal.

The museum is at: http://www.greatlakesnavalmuseum.org/ on the web...

That's me with the Spencer rifle on their volunteer page:

http://www.greatlakesnavalmuseum.org/en/volunteer/

Marc

Yeah, I liked that one too, that's why I took a picture of it by itself. I'm going back in a couple of weeks and I told him I wanted to shoot the BAR and I would clean it.....

Harry

lugerholsterrepair · 06-26-2011, 03:09 PM

Harry..I'm tellin ya..shoot the MP40 and the Thompson! If you can..shoot the MP40 long range, They are amazingly accurate at 200 yards!

hgreer2 · 06-26-2011, 03:26 PM

I would love to shoot a Thompson, but he sold his, didn't like it, go figure............

Harry

rhuff · 06-26-2011, 05:25 PM

I can't imagine anyone not liking a Thompson!! They are just.......well awesome. Yuor firend has some very nice pieces. Thanks for the photos.

alanint · 06-26-2011, 06:26 PM

I have a 28 Thompson and an MP40. I prefer the MP40 hands down. The Tommy is not really ergonomic and sits awkwardly when brought up for sight aiming. It is heavy and the ammo is now expensive. I agree that the MP40 is very accurate. My group has informal shoots where we toss dayglo clay pigeons on the berm at 100 yards. The object is to hit at least 25 out of thirty with a 30round load in your subgun. I regularly win by single shooting the MP40 through trigger control. After much practice it is easy to hit each target with a single shot.

hgreer2 · 06-26-2011, 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=The Tommy is not really ergonomic and sits awkwardly when brought up for sight aiming. [/QUOTE]

I thought that was the point of a Thompson, you didn't have to aim.......

Harry

lugerholsterrepair · 06-26-2011, 07:01 PM

Harry..I thought that was the point of a Thompson, you didn't have to aim.

That's a rookie Soldiers mistake. Spray and pray. One hit is worth more than a hundred misses.

And Doug has a VERY good point..where I fought ammunition was precious. You could only carry so much and you didn't waste it. Getting more was not assured.

Without getting too windy if you study the development and use of the submachine gun it was used for specific purposes, Trench sweeping, going forward thru an ambush..Only the squad leader generally carried an MP40 in the German units. Everyone else carried rifles.

hgreer2 · 06-26-2011, 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=lugerholsterrepair;197174]
That's a rookie Soldiers mistake. Spray and pray. One hit is worth more than a hundred misses.QUOTE]

Ask those cats in the Chicago garage on St. Valentines day if aiming is necessary. I agree with the one hit statement, but if that's what your seeking in battle, use a M1Garand.......

Harry

lugerholsterrepair · 06-26-2011, 07:35 PM

Harry the submachine gun was not developed for urban warfare. However it DOES work well there as you say!

Only the squad leader generally carried an MP40 in the German units. Everyone else carried rifles.

06-25-2011, 07:34 PM	#1
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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	Does he have a FG 42 Fallschirmjaegergewehr rifle??? Specifically, the one with the sharply raked pistol grip??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	That Lewis Machine Gun is an interesting firearm. My father was in the Navy, and trained at Great Lakes Naval Training Center. I stopped by the Center in Illinois a couple of years ago when they were renovating their museum. When I walked in, it was apparent that it wasn't quite open yet... Some of the Navy cadets were cleaning firearms from the museum collection. The curator saw me, and after we chatted, I offered to help... You see, they had the Admiral's personal Lewis Machine Gun out and apart on the table, as well as a Spencer Rifle that had been modified as a line thrower. I spent the afternoon with the cadets learning about both firearms up close and personal. The museum is at: http://www.greatlakesnavalmuseum.org/ on the web... That's me with the Spencer rifle on their volunteer page: http://www.greatlakesnavalmuseum.org/en/volunteer/ Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	Man, you just blew by me at 150 MPH, sorry I have no idea what you are asking, but I can find out the next time I talk to him though. Harry

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	That would be a first model. There are none in the photos and at $100K, plus. There are not many out there.

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Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Awesome collection. Stuff that a man's dreams are made of. Charlie

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Harry..I'm tellin ya..shoot the MP40 and the Thompson! If you can..shoot the MP40 long range, They are amazingly accurate at 200 yards! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-26-2011, 03:26 PM	#14
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	I would love to shoot a Thompson, but he sold his, didn't like it, go figure............ Harry

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rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	I can't imagine anyone not liking a Thompson!! They are just.......well awesome. Yuor firend has some very nice pieces. Thanks for the photos.

06-26-2011, 06:26 PM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I have a 28 Thompson and an MP40. I prefer the MP40 hands down. The Tommy is not really ergonomic and sits awkwardly when brought up for sight aiming. It is heavy and the ammo is now expensive. I agree that the MP40 is very accurate. My group has informal shoots where we toss dayglo clay pigeons on the berm at 100 yards. The object is to hit at least 25 out of thirty with a 30round load in your subgun. I regularly win by single shooting the MP40 through trigger control. After much practice it is easy to hit each target with a single shot.

06-26-2011, 06:46 PM	#17
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	[QUOTE=The Tommy is not really ergonomic and sits awkwardly when brought up for sight aiming. [/QUOTE] I thought that was the point of a Thompson, you didn't have to aim....... Harry

06-26-2011, 07:01 PM	#18
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Harry..I thought that was the point of a Thompson, you didn't have to aim. That's a rookie Soldiers mistake. Spray and pray. One hit is worth more than a hundred misses. And Doug has a VERY good point..where I fought ammunition was precious. You could only carry so much and you didn't waste it. Getting more was not assured. Without getting too windy if you study the development and use of the submachine gun it was used for specific purposes, Trench sweeping, going forward thru an ambush..Only the squad leader generally carried an MP40 in the German units. Everyone else carried rifles. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-26-2011, 07:23 PM	#19
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	[QUOTE=lugerholsterrepair;197174] That's a rookie Soldiers mistake. Spray and pray. One hit is worth more than a hundred misses.QUOTE] Ask those cats in the Chicago garage on St. Valentines day if aiming is necessary. I agree with the one hit statement, but if that's what your seeking in battle, use a M1Garand....... Harry

06-26-2011, 07:35 PM	#20
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Harry the submachine gun was not developed for urban warfare. However it DOES work well there as you say! Only the squad leader generally carried an MP40 in the German units. Everyone else carried rifles. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."