Magazine Question for GT

Thor · 06-05-2002, 12:22 PM

Since GT doesnt have a Magazine section yet (I do think it is a good idea to have one) I was wondering if he has a die to pass or tap through the mag bodies that will remove dents, etc. Also would this adjust back to spec the alignment of the mag lips? I saw a mag tool like this in a book somewhere. Seems like you could revamp a messed up mag with one! Thanks guys! [img]confused.gif[/img]

Russ · 06-05-2002, 12:49 PM

Ted i had one made. it works great on sheet metal mags. i use sizing oil from my realoading bench and a brass hammer and they come out realy nice.

G.T. · 06-05-2002, 02:09 PM

Hi Ted! Actually, I do have a replica of that tool! And it works pretty well for minor dents and such, but.....there is no way to reform the shell back to it's original dimension with out a complete finishing/sizing die, much like the same principle as used in reloading! till...later...G.T.

BILL · 06-05-2002, 08:37 PM

Can anyone post of picture of the dies you have or are talking about? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />

G.T. · 06-05-2002, 09:20 PM

Hi Bill! Glad you made the jump! The mandrel that is used for inside work is the same as is used in an armorer's kit! A similer inside mandrel would be used along with dies ,top & bottom, or, side to side, to press the sheetmetal into it's final shape, I have never seen a set before, but I understand the principle used to form the tube....It is all speculation by me though....no proof.... <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> till...later...G.T.

BILL · 06-05-2002, 10:33 PM

Well, since I have a (dubious) collection of bent WWI mag tubes I am constantly thinking of a way to get them back into smooth functionality. I have some really beautiful mag bottoms for them (hmmm..) and a nice internally correct die set would be interesting to at least see (might be a too much to own, though.

"Take me to your Luger!"

Russ · 06-05-2002, 10:46 PM

Bill if you haveBenders luger holster book , look at page 331.

i will try and get a pic of mine to you or posted here

Russ

AGE · 06-06-2002, 12:02 AM

[quote]Originally posted by BILL:
<strong>Can anyone post of picture of the dies you have or are talking about? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

AGE · 06-06-2002, 12:04 AM

Sorry about the blank reply above, I'm still trying to figure out how this site works. I think I have it now.

Russ · 06-06-2002, 10:31 AM

here is a pic of the tool i had made. i need a new camera for close ups.

John Sabato · 06-06-2002, 02:40 PM

In case you are wondering Russ... I edited your original post and deleted all the other tries you made to get your photo to show... it seems like you have the hang of it now!

Edward Tinker · 06-06-2002, 02:47 PM

So Russ, GT, the die goes through the magazine and pushes out and reams it to a smoother body?

Russ · 06-06-2002, 02:55 PM

thanks John

this one goes inside from the lower end and takes dents out that are dented in.

Russ

G.T. · 06-06-2002, 06:57 PM

Hi Ed, You have to insert the mandrel into the mag. and tap on the dent/shell, with a nylon, plastic, or possibly a brass hammer, sometimes I even use a small steel ballpeen hammer.....It is actually amazing how the dents come out ....sometimes..., you can make quite an improvement in a mag. by tapping out the dents...till...later...G.T. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

John Sabato · 06-07-2002, 10:58 AM

FYI Russ,

If you see the icon with the pencil and paper above your post, you can edit ANY post that you make unless the tread gets locked by a Site Moderator or Administrator..... A really nice feature.

Of course you can only edit your own posts unless your are one of the Forum Moderators or an Administrator..

BILL · 06-15-2002, 06:34 PM

Russ, Thanks for posting the picture of the mandrel you had made. I have passed on dented mags in the past (reasonably priced) because of the dents. I think this would be great asset to anyone who might have a lot of early Lugers in their collection. Every once in awhile I get the urge to beat on some dented steel and a tool like that would be ideal. Can you either post or pm me on the details of how/who made the tool. Was it here in the NW? Thanks.

Russ · 06-17-2002, 07:46 PM

Bill check your p.m.

russ <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

06-05-2002, 12:22 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Magazine Question for GT Since GT doesnt have a Magazine section yet (I do think it is a good idea to have one) I was wondering if he has a die to pass or tap through the mag bodies that will remove dents, etc. Also would this adjust back to spec the alignment of the mag lips? I saw a mag tool like this in a book somewhere. Seems like you could revamp a messed up mag with one! Thanks guys! [img]confused.gif[/img] __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-05-2002, 12:49 PM	#2
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Ted i had one made. it works great on sheet metal mags. i use sizing oil from my realoading bench and a brass hammer and they come out realy nice. __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

06-05-2002, 08:37 PM	#4
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can anyone post of picture of the dies you have or are talking about? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> __________________ *"Take me to your Luger!"*

06-05-2002, 10:33 PM	#6
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, since I have a (dubious) collection of bent WWI mag tubes I am constantly thinking of a way to get them back into smooth functionality. I have some really beautiful mag bottoms for them (hmmm..) and a nice internally correct die set would be interesting to at least see (might be a too much to own, though. "Take me to your Luger!" __________________ *"Take me to your Luger!"*

06-05-2002, 10:46 PM	#7
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Bill if you haveBenders luger holster book , look at page 331. i will try and get a pic of mine to you or posted here Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

06-05-2002, 02:09 PM	#3
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Ted! Actually, I do have a replica of that tool! And it works pretty well for minor dents and such, but.....there is no way to reform the shell back to it's original dimension with out a complete finishing/sizing die, much like the same principle as used in reloading! till...later...G.T.

06-05-2002, 09:20 PM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Bill! Glad you made the jump! The mandrel that is used for inside work is the same as is used in an armorer's kit! A similer inside mandrel would be used along with dies ,top & bottom, or, side to side, to press the sheetmetal into it's final shape, I have never seen a set before, but I understand the principle used to form the tube....It is all speculation by me though....no proof.... <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> till...later...G.T.

06-06-2002, 12:02 AM	#8
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by BILL: <strong>Can anyone post of picture of the dies you have or are talking about? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote> __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

06-06-2002, 12:04 AM	#9
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry about the blank reply above, I'm still trying to figure out how this site works. I think I have it now. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

06-06-2002, 10:31 AM	#10
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	here is a pic of the tool i had made. i need a new camera for close ups. __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

06-06-2002, 02:40 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	In case you are wondering Russ... I edited your original post and deleted all the other tries you made to get your photo to show... it seems like you have the hang of it now! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-06-2002, 02:47 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	So Russ, GT, the die goes through the magazine and pushes out and reams it to a smoother body? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-06-2002, 02:55 PM	#13
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	thanks John this one goes inside from the lower end and takes dents out that are dented in. Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

06-06-2002, 06:57 PM	#14
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Ed, You have to insert the mandrel into the mag. and tap on the dent/shell, with a nylon, plastic, or possibly a brass hammer, sometimes I even use a small steel ballpeen hammer.....It is actually amazing how the dents come out ....sometimes..., you can make quite an improvement in a mag. by tapping out the dents...till...later...G.T. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

06-07-2002, 10:58 AM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	FYI Russ, If you see the icon with the pencil and paper above your post, you can edit ANY post that you make unless the tread gets locked by a Site Moderator or Administrator..... A really nice feature. Of course you can only edit your own posts unless your are one of the Forum Moderators or an Administrator.. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-15-2002, 06:34 PM	#16
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Russ, Thanks for posting the picture of the mandrel you had made. I have passed on dented mags in the past (reasonably priced) because of the dents. I think this would be great asset to anyone who might have a lot of early Lugers in their collection. Every once in awhile I get the urge to beat on some dented steel and a tool like that would be ideal. Can you either post or pm me on the details of how/who made the tool. Was it here in the NW? Thanks. __________________ *"Take me to your Luger!"*

06-17-2002, 07:46 PM	#17
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Bill check your p.m. russ <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!