ammo score!

spripple33 · 06-16-2022, 08:22 PM

Hello, all!

I thought I would share some pics of my latest purchase: a few boxes of vintage Luger ammo. They were a package deal from a fellow who inherited his relative's apparently extensive ammo collection. All are in decent shape with bright colors and clear markings.

The first is a partial box of RWS 9mm soft point ammo from, I believe, sometime between the world wars. The second is a full but open box of WW1 military 9mm ammo dated 1918. The third and most awesome is a box of '20s vintage BKIW .30 Luger carbine ammo that's only missing 13 rounds! Woo-hoo!

-Jason

gunbugs · 06-16-2022, 09:25 PM

Cool stuff.

Norme · 06-17-2022, 07:59 AM

Congratulations Jason, each one of those boxes would be a find of a lifetime but a trifecta is just awesome!
Norm

Edward Tinker · 06-17-2022, 01:49 PM

wow, really nice, the 471A would make me happy, then the WW1 box and the other. great scores!

lugerholsterrepair · 06-17-2022, 05:50 PM

Jason, Color me jealous! The third and most awesome is a box of '20s vintage BKIW .30 Luger carbine ammo that's only missing 13 rounds! Woo-hoo!

Now it wouldn't make much difference if it was missing 15 rounds would it? Then I would have a couple of rounds for my collection

Congrats my friend..coulden't happen to a nicer guy. hey! And you could still keep the box!

I know...keep my day job.

spangy · 06-18-2022, 07:04 AM

Nice score my friend

spripple33 · 06-19-2022, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Jason, Color me jealous! The third and most awesome is a box of '20s vintage BKIW .30 Luger carbine ammo that's only missing 13 rounds! Woo-hoo!

Now it wouldn't make much difference if it was missing 15 rounds would it? Then I would have a couple of rounds for my collection

Congrats my friend..coulden't happen to a nicer guy. hey! And you could still keep the box!

I know...keep my day job.

Jerry, you are absolutely right. I WON'T miss a few rounds out of an already not full box. You are a pillar of this community and we all benefit from your wisdom and experience with all things leather. Thank you for all that you do.
If you are serious, I would be honored to contribute a couple of carbine rounds to your collection. I will make sure they have nice clear headstamps, as not all of them do.

-Jason

Vlim · 06-19-2022, 11:05 AM

Interesting set of boxes.

The WW1 1918 box is confusing. The cases are marked RM S, which is Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik (Rheinmetall) in Sommerda. But I cannot ID the Hs. maker on the box label.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-19-2022, 12:44 PM

Jason, OMG! You are a Prince. Not many people would do such a generous act of kindness. Thank you...I very much appreciate it.

Jerry

Ron Wood · 06-19-2022, 03:30 PM

Finding early Luger ammo is indeed fortunate, and you have made a nice haul!
After around a hundred years it is unlikely to find totally intact examples. This post brought to mind some of the things I have done over the years...in particular I found some photos on a project I took on to help preserve one box for future generations. It looks nice in its current resting place!

spripple33 · 06-19-2022, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim

Interesting set of boxes.

The WW1 1918 box is confusing. The cases are marked RM S, which is Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik (Rheinmetall) in Sommerda. But I cannot ID the Hs. maker on the box label.

Vlim,
On closer examination, this box contains rounds with 3 different dates on the headstamps so it appears someone has either added rounds to make a full box or possibly refilled it with incorrect but still WW1 vintage military ammo. I will post pics of the different headstamps and a better pic of the box asap.
-Jason

spripple33 · 06-19-2022, 10:32 PM

Ron,
That is awesome work! Thanks for sharing. And for your preservation work!
-Jason

lugerholsterrepair · 06-19-2022, 10:39 PM

I wonder if there is any clue in the blue color of the box?

Vlim · 06-20-2022, 08:31 AM

Most WW1 boxes were blue.

spripple33 · 06-21-2022, 01:35 PM

Here are close-up shots of the WW1 ammo box label and the three different dated headstamps on the rounds. -Jason

Vlim · 06-21-2022, 01:48 PM

Nice. The rounds are indeed made by Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik in Sommerda.

I am still puzzled by the Hs. makers code on the box.
The box label mentions the cases and bullets were both made by Hs. In 1917.

spripple33 · 06-26-2022, 12:38 AM

I ran across a thread in the cartridge collector's forum that seems to point to the Hs. marking on the box being correct for Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik in Sommerda. https://forum.cartridgecollectors.or...-belgium/15266
The majority of the rounds in the box are headstamped RM and 18 so they are most likely correct! Yay!
-Jason

06-16-2022, 08:22 PM	#1
spripple33 User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gettysburg, PA Posts: 85 Thanks: 137 Thanked 167 Times in 54 Posts	ammo score! Hello, all! I thought I would share some pics of my latest purchase: a few boxes of vintage Luger ammo. They were a package deal from a fellow who inherited his relative's apparently extensive ammo collection. All are in decent shape with bright colors and clear markings. The first is a partial box of RWS 9mm soft point ammo from, I believe, sometime between the world wars. The second is a full but open box of WW1 military 9mm ammo dated 1918. The third and most awesome is a box of '20s vintage BKIW .30 Luger carbine ammo that's only missing 13 rounds! Woo-hoo! -Jason Attached Thumbnails

06-17-2022, 05:50 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jason, Color me jealous! The third and most awesome is a box of '20s vintage BKIW .30 Luger carbine ammo that's only missing 13 rounds! Woo-hoo! Now it wouldn't make much difference if it was missing 15 rounds would it? Then I would have a couple of rounds for my collectionCongrats my friend..coulden't happen to a nicer guy. hey! And you could still keep the box! I know...keep my day job. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-18-2022, 07:04 AM	#6
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	Nice score my friend __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

06-19-2022, 12:44 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jason, OMG! You are a Prince. Not many people would do such a generous act of kindness. Thank you...I very much appreciate it. Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-19-2022, 03:30 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Finding early Luger ammo is indeed fortunate, and you have made a nice haul! After around a hundred years it is unlikely to find totally intact examples. This post brought to mind some of the things I have done over the years...in particular I found some photos on a project I took on to help preserve one box for future generations. It looks nice in its current resting place! Attached Thumbnails __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-16-2022, 09:25 PM	#2
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 658 Thanks: 365 Thanked 1,176 Times in 393 Posts	Cool stuff.

06-17-2022, 07:59 AM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Congratulations Jason, each one of those boxes would be a find of a lifetime but a trifecta is just awesome! Norm

06-17-2022, 01:49 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	wow, really nice, the 471A would make me happy, then the WW1 box and the other. great scores!

06-19-2022, 11:05 AM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Interesting set of boxes. The WW1 1918 box is confusing. The cases are marked RM S, which is Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik (Rheinmetall) in Sommerda. But I cannot ID the Hs. maker on the box label.

06-19-2022, 10:32 PM	#12
spripple33 User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gettysburg, PA Posts: 85 Thanks: 137 Thanked 167 Times in 54 Posts	Ron, That is awesome work! Thanks for sharing. And for your preservation work! -Jason

06-19-2022, 10:39 PM	#13
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I wonder if there is any clue in the blue color of the box? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-20-2022, 08:31 AM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Most WW1 boxes were blue.

06-21-2022, 01:35 PM	#15
spripple33 User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gettysburg, PA Posts: 85 Thanks: 137 Thanked 167 Times in 54 Posts	Here are close-up shots of the WW1 ammo box label and the three different dated headstamps on the rounds. -Jason Attached Thumbnails

06-21-2022, 01:48 PM	#16
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Nice. The rounds are indeed made by Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik in Sommerda. I am still puzzled by the Hs. makers code on the box. The box label mentions the cases and bullets were both made by Hs. In 1917.

06-26-2022, 12:38 AM	#17
spripple33 User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gettysburg, PA Posts: 85 Thanks: 137 Thanked 167 Times in 54 Posts	I ran across a thread in the cartridge collector's forum that seems to point to the Hs. marking on the box being correct for Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik in Sommerda. https://forum.cartridgecollectors.or...-belgium/15266 The majority of the rounds in the box are headstamped RM and 18 so they are most likely correct! Yay! -Jason