Proper Holster for 42 BYF?

Pistol · 08-22-2018, 11:38 AM

I've been looking for a 1942 holster to go with a BYF 42 I recently picked up. Would a BYF 42 be issued with only a 1942 dated holster, or could it also have been issued with a 1941 dated holster?

What is the most proper? The luger serial number is in the E block. Maybe that is still early enough for a 41 holster?

DavidJayUden · 08-22-2018, 11:50 AM

It seems that most collectors are OK with one year either way. The gun was not issued with an original holster, but was matched up with whatever was available at that time. Not new gun, new holster. Or, at least, that is my understanding.
dju

Pistol · 08-22-2018, 11:58 AM

Ok, so with a 1941 luger you could go with a 1940 or 1942 holster.....but in reality it could have been originaly paired with a 1939 holster or whatever was available?

DavidJayUden · 08-22-2018, 12:22 PM

That is my understanding.
dju

Pistol · 08-22-2018, 12:34 PM

thanks

mrerick · 08-23-2018, 08:33 AM

In an active military context, one of the last things any armorer or unit would worry about is matching up the year of manufacture of a Luger holster and a Luger.

Whatever was available got issued.

Pistol · 08-23-2018, 08:47 AM

That is what I thought. Thanks!

G.T. · 08-23-2018, 10:54 AM

Hi to all! I was thinking, always a risky thing for me to do, about holsters and how they were most likely stored, handled and issued during the pre war, and maybe early wartime period.
Now to start with, I've had just enough experience with inventory to know, that items have to be faced, and inventoried, to know what you have, and how many you have of it? If perishable, add rotated as well. The better you do, the more accurate it, your inventory, would be? And, everyone I've ever known hates doing inventory! ..

… So, I believe, (just me, no-one else has this crazy idea!) that the holsters were received in boxes, crates, or racks of holsters in a manageable size, say racks of ten, or crates of 20 etc. etc. from the holster manufacture? Maybe even more! But the thought to be considered is, it's easy to inventory 5 racks of 20 ea. rather then count 100 holsters in a box every day for each and every holster type, not to mention a 1000 other items that come and go on a daily basis. Now the reason I mention this possible method is that it would certainly influence how holsters were matched to guns as far as matching the date of manufacture.
This would account for some overlap in dates, but not the endless, and bottomless box where a 1936 holster lurks into 1942!
Now, pistols that were put back into inventory would be the deal breaker, as any holster that came off the rack would be it's new, correct matching holster, regardless of the date..
Most importantly, the reason this could work is the German militaries anal obsession with marking and tracking everything they made or captured prior to when things started going south on them, and even then it continued until the end!
These are the boys that most likely invented, inventory, rotating and facing items??? Just my thoughts, back to magazine repair! best to all, til...lat'r.....GT......

Roadster 02 · 08-23-2018, 10:00 PM

Would the holster for the OP's pistol be black or brown, or could it be either?

08-22-2018, 11:38 AM	#1
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 421 Thanks: 430 Thanked 214 Times in 95 Posts	Proper Holster for 42 BYF? I've been looking for a 1942 holster to go with a BYF 42 I recently picked up. Would a BYF 42 be issued with only a 1942 dated holster, or could it also have been issued with a 1941 dated holster? What is the most proper? The luger serial number is in the E block. Maybe that is still early enough for a 41 holster?

08-23-2018, 08:33 AM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	In an active military context, one of the last things any armorer or unit would worry about is matching up the year of manufacture of a Luger holster and a Luger. Whatever was available got issued. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-23-2018, 10:54 AM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	holster inventory and issue! Hi to all! I was thinking, always a risky thing for me to do, about holsters and how they were most likely stored, handled and issued during the pre war, and maybe early wartime period. Now to start with, I've had just enough experience with inventory to know, that items have to be faced, and inventoried, to know what you have, and how many you have of it? If perishable, add rotated as well. The better you do, the more accurate it, your inventory, would be? And, everyone I've ever known hates doing inventory! ..… So, I believe, (just me, no-one else has this crazy idea!) that the holsters were received in boxes, crates, or racks of holsters in a manageable size, say racks of ten, or crates of 20 etc. etc. from the holster manufacture? Maybe even more! But the thought to be considered is, it's easy to inventory 5 racks of 20 ea. rather then count 100 holsters in a box every day for each and every holster type, not to mention a 1000 other items that come and go on a daily basis. Now the reason I mention this possible method is that it would certainly influence how holsters were matched to guns as far as matching the date of manufacture. This would account for some overlap in dates, but not the endless, and bottomless box where a 1936 holster lurks into 1942! Now, pistols that were put back into inventory would be the deal breaker, as any holster that came off the rack would be it's new, correct matching holster, regardless of the date.. Most importantly, the reason this could work is the German militaries anal obsession with marking and tracking everything they made or captured prior to when things started going south on them, and even then it continued until the end! These are the boys that most likely invented, inventory, rotating and facing items??? Just my thoughts, back to magazine repair! best to all, til...lat'r.....GT......

08-22-2018, 11:50 AM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	It seems that most collectors are OK with one year either way. The gun was not issued with an original holster, but was matched up with whatever was available at that time. Not new gun, new holster. Or, at least, that is my understanding. dju

08-22-2018, 11:58 AM	#3
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 421 Thanks: 430 Thanked 214 Times in 95 Posts	Ok, so with a 1941 luger you could go with a 1940 or 1942 holster.....but in reality it could have been originaly paired with a 1939 holster or whatever was available?

08-22-2018, 12:22 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	That is my understanding. dju

08-22-2018, 12:34 PM	#5
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 421 Thanks: 430 Thanked 214 Times in 95 Posts	thanks

08-23-2018, 08:47 AM	#7
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 421 Thanks: 430 Thanked 214 Times in 95 Posts	That is what I thought. Thanks!

08-23-2018, 10:00 PM	#9
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 298 Thanks: 163 Thanked 228 Times in 77 Posts	Would the holster for the OP's pistol be black or brown, or could it be either?