1917 Navy? - Page 3

DavidJayUden · 12-07-2013, 03:55 PM

That would be ironic: The fed's get all excited about you forging a money order in order to screw with a thief, the same thief that they ignored...
But the more I think about it, the more that is starting to sound like "business as usual".
dju

ithacaartist · 12-11-2013, 10:30 AM

This morning's update. I've stalled over the weekend by suggesting that my truck would not start, to get me to the bank, P.O., etc. They've emailed a couple of times asking when it will be sent. This morning, I responded by saying I have a buddy out there that will meet them face-to-face at a gun shop there to do the transaction, and asked for their phone number so "he" can call them to set up an appointment. Next time, I'll give them the number for the BATFE in Columbus, and perhaps the agent's name for a contact.

rhuff · 12-11-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

This morning's update. I've stalled over the weekend by suggesting that my truck would not start, to get me to the bank, P.O., etc. They've emailed a couple of times asking when it will be sent. This morning, I responded by saying I have a buddy out there that will meet them face-to-face at a gun shop there to do the transaction, and asked for their phone number so "he" can call them to set up an appointment. Next time, I'll give them the number for the BATFE in Columbus, and perhaps the agent's name for a contact.

We have our own Luger Forum Soap Opera!! I am really enjoying this saga. I just wish that the slimeballs would get arrested and prosecuted.

alanint · 12-11-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

But before that, I'll tease 'em with the idea that I'm driving out there for a face-to-face transaction...or maybe that I have a friend there who is going to stop by and check it out. I might get a phone number out of them, which could help with further shenanigans.

Make sure to tell them that he is a nice POLICEMAN friend who lives close by who has offered to come look at the pistol. See if they give you a time and place for them to meet.

CAP Black · 12-11-2013, 08:45 PM

If you expect them to go for it, I wouldn't make it sound too threatening or they will see that the trap isn't worth the bait.
IMHO
Jack

ithacaartist · 12-11-2013, 10:05 PM

I figure that any agency with the time, personnel, and resources would jump at the chance to sting some perps and haul them in. Oops! I forgot...that would be happening in my personal perfect fantasy world! I think this info I provided is now enshrined in a manila folder, filed away in the order in which it was received. Any further developments on that front, I'm afraid, will not come quickly.

No, there's nothing I can do except yank their chain with a few more emails bearing false hope of free money. The fun is diminished somewhat by the knowledge that nothing much, really, will probably happen. A few more emails and I'll be tired of it, but will post if I come up with a funny one...

lugersrkewl · 12-14-2013, 05:32 PM

so this is the scammer we have been dealing with he has changed his game up wich I was afraid of. Im not gonna roll the dice with armslist anymore
http://www.armslist.com/posts/244757...dow-luger-1941

gunbugs · 12-14-2013, 08:10 PM

I generally only buy from known independent dealers, such as simpsons, etc. or individuals or sellers on Gunbroker with substantial positive feedback. Or, when someone walks in the door with a good deal.

wlyon · 12-14-2013, 09:38 PM

I only buy when I am alone or with somebody. Works for me. Bill

ithacaartist · 12-15-2013, 12:40 AM

Three days ago, I emailed saying I had a buddy who would meet them at a gun shop for a ftf deal, and asked for their phone number so I could forward it to him. I have not heard a peep since.

On Armslist I have also encountered whack0s.

lugersrkewl · 12-15-2013, 07:02 PM

I knew it was a matter of time before it became too risky Im just glad noone got burned.

ithacaartist · 12-16-2013, 02:26 AM

Either the knowledge that the pistol was listed on several sites, or the phony FFL would have nipped this in the bud--and I had both. Thanks for the first one, Brother, and thanks to Bill McGuire of Interlaken Guns and Ammo for the latter. He always checks. Some, he says, don't always, and that's where the risk is.

I've made tons of gun and gun-related purchases from all sorts of auctions and classified sites and forums (I had to join a couple to buy guns, even). However, I'm not trafficking high-end collectibles. Shooters don't have much potential of great profit for scammers, so this probably explains why I've only ever encountered honest people so far.

Oh, and I think this is the same people again http://www.gunlistings.org/indiana-g...zi_not_dwm_ww2

NYRommel · 12-23-2013, 10:29 AM

If you guys want to mess with another scammer, here is an active listing.
http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=481706

This listing was flagged as a scam on arms list.

NYRommel · 12-23-2013, 10:42 AM

Here is the real listing
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=383578034

Tony Min · 12-23-2013, 12:26 PM

If I can't buy with a credit card, I don't buy. Never would I send a moneyorder or check. If the deal says money order only, I move on.

12-11-2013, 10:30 AM	#42
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	This morning's update. I've stalled over the weekend by suggesting that my truck would not start, to get me to the bank, P.O., etc. They've emailed a couple of times asking when it will be sent. This morning, I responded by saying I have a buddy out there that will meet them face-to-face at a gun shop there to do the transaction, and asked for their phone number so "he" can call them to set up an appointment. Next time, I'll give them the number for the BATFE in Columbus, and perhaps the agent's name for a contact. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

12-11-2013, 10:05 PM	#46
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	I figure that any agency with the time, personnel, and resources would jump at the chance to sting some perps and haul them in. Oops! I forgot...that would be happening in my personal perfect fantasy world! I think this info I provided is now enshrined in a manila folder, filed away in the order in which it was received. Any further developments on that front, I'm afraid, will not come quickly. No, there's nothing I can do except yank their chain with a few more emails bearing false hope of free money. The fun is diminished somewhat by the knowledge that nothing much, really, will probably happen. A few more emails and I'll be tired of it, but will post if I come up with a funny one... __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

12-14-2013, 09:38 PM	#49
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	I only buy when I am alone or with somebody. Works for me. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-15-2013, 12:40 AM	#50
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	The end? Three days ago, I emailed saying I had a buddy who would meet them at a gun shop for a ftf deal, and asked for their phone number so I could forward it to him. I have not heard a peep since. On Armslist I have also encountered whack0s. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

12-16-2013, 02:26 AM	#52
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	Either the knowledge that the pistol was listed on several sites, or the phony FFL would have nipped this in the bud--and I had both. Thanks for the first one, Brother, and thanks to Bill McGuire of Interlaken Guns and Ammo for the latter. He always checks. Some, he says, don't always, and that's where the risk is. I've made tons of gun and gun-related purchases from all sorts of auctions and classified sites and forums (I had to join a couple to buy guns, even). However, I'm not trafficking high-end collectibles. Shooters don't have much potential of great profit for scammers, so this probably explains why I've only ever encountered honest people so far. Oh, and I think this is the same people again http://www.gunlistings.org/indiana-g...zi_not_dwm_ww2 __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

12-07-2013, 03:55 PM	#41
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	That would be ironic: The fed's get all excited about you forging a money order in order to screw with a thief, the same thief that they ignored... But the more I think about it, the more that is starting to sound like "business as usual". dju

12-11-2013, 08:45 PM	#45
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	If you expect them to go for it, I wouldn't make it sound too threatening or they will see that the trap isn't worth the bait. IMHO Jack

12-14-2013, 05:32 PM	#47
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	so this is the scammer we have been dealing with he has changed his game up wich I was afraid of. Im not gonna roll the dice with armslist anymore http://www.armslist.com/posts/244757...dow-luger-1941

12-14-2013, 08:10 PM	#48
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 635 Thanks: 335 Thanked 1,139 Times in 377 Posts	I generally only buy from known independent dealers, such as simpsons, etc. or individuals or sellers on Gunbroker with substantial positive feedback. Or, when someone walks in the door with a good deal.

12-15-2013, 07:02 PM	#51
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	I knew it was a matter of time before it became too risky Im just glad noone got burned.

12-23-2013, 10:29 AM	#53
NYRommel User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you guys want to mess with another scammer, here is an active listing. http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=481706 This listing was flagged as a scam on arms list.

12-23-2013, 10:42 AM	#54
NYRommel User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here is the real listing http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=383578034

12-23-2013, 12:26 PM	#55
Tony Min User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts	If I can't buy with a credit card, I don't buy. Never would I send a moneyorder or check. If the deal says money order only, I move on.