rare one?

Roadkill · 01-28-2003, 08:55 PM

http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2361.htm

rk

Bosun · 01-29-2003, 02:33 AM

This is a Finnish M/23 (basically DWM commercial M/20)rebarreled with Finnish Tikkakoski barrel. The 'Lentokonetehdas' means Aeroplane Factory; No Finnish Army 'SA' stamp visible. Quite a rare one.

Navy · 01-31-2003, 08:31 AM

Bob Simpson has a similar rig FS.

Tom A.

Luke · 02-01-2003, 12:46 AM

Very interesting Luger. Wish I could read the text.

Thor · 02-01-2003, 08:17 AM

Interesting Front sight blade! I have seen this documented in Costanzo's WOL book before.

Pete Ebbink · 02-04-2003, 05:45 AM

Hello Luke,

John S. had posted this translation link awhile back.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn

It is not 100% accruate, but it gives you an idea. It really helps if you are a "language dummy", like I am...

You just "cut & paste" the text you want to translate, drop it into the translation "box" and choose your languages...

Here is the translation about this luger :

DWM (BKIW) pistol 08, Air Force Kal. 7.65 Para, No. number equal 6216h.. The case brightly, on the front joint the DWM Logo. Rh German military acceptance. Left at the framework two-line bez. "LENTOKONETEHDAS - KL.No. 3128"("aircraft factory"). Run with geae. Grain in Finland replaces. Original, nearly completely received burnishing with light stretcher traces at run and cover plate. Small articles yellow started. Easily damages centralbrown grip caps (left outbreak, RH. Pressure point.) Good nickel plated magazine with timber flooring o.Nr. Centralbrown pistol bag with thorn buckle and Schluesseltaeschchen, finery stick mounting plate beside the magazine bag, out finn. Manufacturing. Manufacturer embossing not readably. Under the cover riveted brass plaque with "3128". A very rare collecting tank weapon! Condition: II euro 2.000,00

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Luke · 02-04-2003, 05:52 AM

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the translation. Would sure love to see the gun.

Luke

John Sabato · 02-06-2003, 06:19 AM

Don't forget Terry, that us GUYS only get to use HALF of that grey gooey stuff... so that explains why we are confused all the time...

Heinz · 02-06-2003, 12:41 PM

Tac Thank you very much!!

Dankeshoen fruend!

sambuscemi · 02-17-2003, 04:26 PM

Tom Armstrong: I do not know what the Euro is quiet worth. But Simpson has his mismatched Finn for sale at $5995.00. Is it possible this could be a good buy? What do you think. SAM See you in Louisville.

Navy · 02-17-2003, 05:13 PM

sambuscami:
For general purposes, consider a Euro as parity for a greenback. There may be a slight difference, one way or another, as the EU quakes in their appeasement-driven economies, but the difference is insignificant.

Will buy you a brewski in Louisville, my friend.

Tom A.

Big Norm · 02-17-2003, 09:56 PM

Sam,
personally, I don't think that a mismatched ANYTHING is worth six grand.
Big Norm

Radex · 02-19-2003, 06:00 AM

Hi,

if anyone finds a text in german I would be glad to help you. I'm a native german speaker, but my english is far away from beeing perfect.

Radex

John D. · 02-27-2003, 09:56 PM

Thank you Radex!

You speak/write in English far better then most of us speak/write in German. We look forward to many more posts from you!

Welcome to the Forum! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

karmast · 05-02-2003, 11:50 AM

Hey another German! I am from a town near Nuremberg.. Wellcome! Of course I would be glad to help you with translations, too.. Send me a message! (But my English is horrible!)

gustav73 · 05-07-2003, 04:05 AM

Hey here is the next german boy.

Here the right german words from tacfoleyÃ?Â´s list:

BeschuÃ??amt proof-house
DurchmeÃ??er (or Durchmesser) diameter
EinzelschuÃ?? single-shot
Ersten Weltkrieg (or Erster Weltkrieg) WW1
Hinteren Knebel (or hinterer Knebel) rear toggle
Kugel bullet
Kugellager breech
Perlmutt mother-of-pearl
SchuÃ??leistung shooting performance
Sehr gebraucht[e] well-used
Vordere[e] Knebel front or leading toggle
Waffenamt armaments bureau
ZÃ?Â¼ndhÃ?Â¼tchen primer
ZuverlÃ?Â¤Ã??ig (or ZuverlÃ?Â¤ssig) reliable
Zweiten Weltkrieg (or Zweiter Weltkrieg) WW2

I hope it helps.

Me english is very bad, but my german ist good! ;-)

Greetings Gustav

JuergenG · 05-08-2003, 02:54 AM

Good to see the German community growing.
Juergen
Giessen area, approx. 45 mi. north of Frankfurt

Roadkill · 05-08-2003, 10:11 AM

Quit apoligizing. You will do better than we can. Glad you are here, thanks for the help and the offers. But don't be surprised when someone send you something like a dictionary with a request for translation.

rk

JuergenG · 05-09-2003, 04:05 AM

No problem as long as time allows.

Jim Keenan · 05-14-2003, 10:53 PM

Small note. The letter that looks sort like a "B" is the German single letter for "ss". So what looks like "EinzelschuB" is really "Einzelschuss" (single shot), and is spelled that way by those without access to a German language word processor or typewriter.
(I can't reproduce the letter here or do umlauts either.)

Jim

01-28-2003, 08:55 PM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	rare one? http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2361.htm rk

02-01-2003, 12:46 AM	#4
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Very interesting Luger. Wish I could read the text. __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

02-01-2003, 08:17 AM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Interesting Front sight blade! I have seen this documented in Costanzo's WOL book before. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-04-2003, 05:52 AM	#7
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Hi Pete, Thanks for the translation. Would sure love to see the gun. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

02-06-2003, 06:19 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Don't forget Terry, that us GUYS only get to use HALF of that grey gooey stuff... so that explains why we are confused all the time... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-29-2003, 02:33 AM	#2
Bosun New User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is a Finnish M/23 (basically DWM commercial M/20)rebarreled with Finnish Tikkakoski barrel. The 'Lentokonetehdas' means Aeroplane Factory; No Finnish Army 'SA' stamp visible. Quite a rare one.

01-31-2003, 08:31 AM	#3
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Bob Simpson has a similar rig FS. Tom A.

02-04-2003, 05:45 AM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Luke, John S. had posted this translation link awhile back. http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn It is not 100% accruate, but it gives you an idea. It really helps if you are a "language dummy", like I am... You just "cut & paste" the text you want to translate, drop it into the translation "box" and choose your languages... Here is the translation about this luger : DWM (BKIW) pistol 08, Air Force Kal. 7.65 Para, No. number equal 6216h.. The case brightly, on the front joint the DWM Logo. Rh German military acceptance. Left at the framework two-line bez. "LENTOKONETEHDAS - KL.No. 3128"("aircraft factory"). Run with geae. Grain in Finland replaces. Original, nearly completely received burnishing with light stretcher traces at run and cover plate. Small articles yellow started. Easily damages centralbrown grip caps (left outbreak, RH. Pressure point.) Good nickel plated magazine with timber flooring o.Nr. Centralbrown pistol bag with thorn buckle and Schluesseltaeschchen, finery stick mounting plate beside the magazine bag, out finn. Manufacturing. Manufacturer embossing not readably. Under the cover riveted brass plaque with "3128". A very rare collecting tank weapon! Condition: II euro 2.000,00 Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

02-06-2003, 12:41 PM	#9
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Tac Thank you very much!! Dankeshoen fruend!

02-17-2003, 04:26 PM	#10
sambuscemi User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 192 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Tom Armstrong: I do not know what the Euro is quiet worth. But Simpson has his mismatched Finn for sale at $5995.00. Is it possible this could be a good buy? What do you think. SAM See you in Louisville.

02-17-2003, 05:13 PM	#11
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	sambuscami: For general purposes, consider a Euro as parity for a greenback. There may be a slight difference, one way or another, as the EU quakes in their appeasement-driven economies, but the difference is insignificant. Will buy you a brewski in Louisville, my friend. Tom A.

02-17-2003, 09:56 PM	#12
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Sam, personally, I don't think that a mismatched ANYTHING is worth six grand. Big Norm

02-19-2003, 06:00 AM	#13
Radex New User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany, near Frankfurt/Main Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, if anyone finds a text in german I would be glad to help you. I'm a native german speaker, but my english is far away from beeing perfect. Radex

02-27-2003, 09:56 PM	#14
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Thank you Radex! You speak/write in English far better then most of us speak/write in German. We look forward to many more posts from you! Welcome to the Forum! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

05-02-2003, 11:50 AM	#15
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey another German! I am from a town near Nuremberg.. Wellcome! Of course I would be glad to help you with translations, too.. Send me a message! (But my English is horrible!) __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

05-07-2003, 04:05 AM	#16
gustav73 New User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Germany, Berlin Spandau Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey here is the next german boy. Here the right german words from tacfoleyÃ?Â´s list: BeschuÃ??amt proof-house DurchmeÃ??er (or Durchmesser) diameter EinzelschuÃ?? single-shot Ersten Weltkrieg (or Erster Weltkrieg) WW1 Hinteren Knebel (or hinterer Knebel) rear toggle Kugel bullet Kugellager breech Perlmutt mother-of-pearl SchuÃ??leistung shooting performance Sehr gebraucht[e] well-used Vordere[e] Knebel front or leading toggle Waffenamt armaments bureau ZÃ?Â¼ndhÃ?Â¼tchen primer ZuverlÃ?Â¤Ã??ig (or ZuverlÃ?Â¤ssig) reliable Zweiten Weltkrieg (or Zweiter Weltkrieg) WW2 I hope it helps. Me english is very bad, but my german ist good! ;-) Greetings Gustav

05-08-2003, 02:54 AM	#17
JuergenG User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 154 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good to see the German community growing. Juergen Giessen area, approx. 45 mi. north of Frankfurt

05-08-2003, 10:11 AM	#18
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Quit apoligizing. You will do better than we can. Glad you are here, thanks for the help and the offers. But don't be surprised when someone send you something like a dictionary with a request for translation. rk

05-09-2003, 04:05 AM	#19
JuergenG User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 154 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No problem as long as time allows.

05-14-2003, 10:53 PM	#20
Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Small note. The letter that looks sort like a "B" is the German single letter for "ss". So what looks like "EinzelschuB" is really "Einzelschuss" (single shot), and is spelled that way by those without access to a German language word processor or typewriter. (I can't reproduce the letter here or do umlauts either.) Jim