45 DWM 1921 Luger ????? - Page 2

petesguns · 03-17-2009, 04:54 PM

Well, I haven't figured out what I am going to do with this gun, as it really doesn't fit my collection, BUT, it is so beautiful, it is hard to part with it. I suppose if the right offer comes along.....they say everything has a price! Anyways, I am glad it brought some interest into your lives. If any more info comes available, I will post it here. THANKS to all who responded. Tom

JTD · 03-18-2009, 08:21 AM

looks like chipped breach block next to extractor in pic.

Ron Wood · 03-18-2009, 12:50 PM

I enlarged the photo, and can't see a chip.

petesguns · 03-18-2009, 07:12 PM

There is no chip anywhere, I believe it is a reflection of the light. The date is 1921 on the chamber, so it was obviously made after 1918. When, and by whom, is the question. The quality of the work is excellent, everywhere one looks. If anyone is interested in this gun, please contact me, and we will talk. It is so unique, that a direct value is difficult to establish. I guess it is worth whatever one is willing to pay for it.

Ron Wood · 03-18-2009, 09:16 PM

Tom,
The "1918" reference has nothing to do with your Luger...it is part of my "signature".

petesguns · 03-20-2009, 08:56 AM

Stupid me! Thanks! Heaven help us, I must be a repro too!

Edward Tinker · 03-20-2009, 09:05 AM

Pete, I sent you a PM several days ago....

JTD · 03-20-2009, 07:45 PM

Must be reflection on left side. looked like the extractor caught the block.Better put my glasses on. The work does look very nice, and wouldnt mind having it in my safe. good find, thats for sure.

lfid · 03-22-2009, 01:56 PM

Hi
anybody know if there is a problem with ffl transfer of a pistol with no serial ?

state is texas

searched thru prior postings - seems like a roll of the dice

thanks
Bill

alanint · 03-22-2009, 05:45 PM

No problem,

Thousands of guns were turned out prior to the 1968 gun laws with no serial numbers. Where the serial goes in the paperwork simply write N/A.

petesguns · 03-26-2009, 11:32 AM

Yup, no problem with no serial number, we use NSN for the serial number column. I really do appreciate all of the comments on this old girl. She really is a piece of work. I have not fired it nor have I even tried to load it, as it looks so fine just sitting in her case.

petesguns · 04-24-2009, 11:28 AM

We have just listed this gun for sale on the "green" auction site. Thank you to all who contributed to our quest for information on this gun.

John Sabato · 04-24-2009, 01:07 PM

What is the "green"auction Site? Gunbroker?

Jack Lawman · 04-24-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

What is the "green"auction Site? Gunbroker?

Looks like it:
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=127701745

Jack

sovblocgunfan · 04-24-2009, 02:43 PM

Dear Petesguns,

Not cool.

I think you took advantage of the willingness of the kind people on this site to help you do research on this. You could have at least offered dibs or at least a good price or heads-up to those people who helped you.

Other forums are not this generous w/ their info for this very reason.

Sorry, but I have a hard time wishing you well on your sale. Hope you relist it to infinity, and I intend to steer clear of your brick and mortar store if you have one.

petesguns · 04-25-2009, 11:11 PM

Oh well, feel that way. I asked for info and was given much good information. None of it was conclusive, but I did not EXPECT to get anything concrete. I will add that the gun was offered to a couple of people from this forum but it was declined. No problem, it did not sell in the shop, so a broader venue was chosen to market it. I am sorry you do not approve, but I did not see it in the fine print that I had to ask YOUR permission to sell MY gun. To all the other FINE people who attempted to help me, I again thank you for your input to my quest to try to find some info about this vexing piece. I also don't really care if it sells or not, but decided to offer it up anyway.

lugerholsterrepair · 04-26-2009, 01:05 AM

Justin, Not cool. No one here was taken advantage of..We all contribute as the subject interests us.

Offered dibs? A good price? You must be young and don't realize the nature of the open free market. Many if not most of the people who help here don't want everything that appears and certainly don't expect charity.
I think most people who frequent this Forum will continue to interact with no demand for special favors.
Sorry, but I have a hard time wishing you well on your sale. Hope you relist it to infinity, and I intend to steer clear of your brick and mortar store if you have one.
This is hatefull and beyond the pale. Certainly not the kind of behavior I or any of our members expect and I think you owe Tom an apology if you expect to remain around here long.
When a Moderator reads this you may get some attention you deserve.
Jerry Burney

sovblocgunfan · 04-26-2009, 11:03 AM

Fair enough. No apology will be given, however. Mods (including you, Mr. Burney), do what you will.

petesguns · 04-26-2009, 11:16 AM

A couple of members were interested in this gun, and it was offered to them. I certainly am not upset it was not accepted. I decided to put it up on a national venue to see if anyone would decide they really wanted it as a unique addition to their collection. It certainly would have a better home in the hands of a Luger collector, than in my shop, where it is certainly appreciated, but does not get the specific attention it would get in a dedicated collection. I really don't care if it sells or not, as it is certainly a wonderful piece, even in my own non dedicated collection. I also TOTALLY appreciate the helpful attempts from all but one member here at trying to help me find some info on this gun, as that is really what forums are for, sharing of information and knowledge. I need no apology, as it would most likely be hollow in meaning. This is a unique gun, and I knew NOTHING about it when I acquired it. I now know alot more about it, due in most part to this forum and it's generous members. I DO hope that those who have viewed it, have enjoyed it. Well, all but one of you. Take care, and again, thank you.

lugerholsterrepair · 04-26-2009, 12:26 PM

Justin..Mr. Burney..You have me at a disadvantage sir...since you do not have the stones to sign your own posts.
Personal attacks are NOT tolerated on this Forum. Your childish behavior towards Tom stamps you as immature and your response to tone down your outlandish hateful attack shows me you are NOT a desirable contributor to these boards. This is a very poor way to start out as a new member.
You could have at least offered dibs or at least a good price..begging for charity strikes me as extremely pathetic.
Had I written this childish tirade... I would beg forgiveness.
As for what our Moderators will do I cannot say but with no explanation or contrition you'd be history to me.

Jerry Burney

03-18-2009, 12:50 PM	#23
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	I enlarged the photo, and can't see a chip. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-18-2009, 09:16 PM	#25
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Tom, The "1918" reference has nothing to do with your Luger...it is part of my "signature". __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#27
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Pete, I sent you a PM several days ago.... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-24-2009, 01:07 PM	#33
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	What is the "green"auction Site? Gunbroker? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-26-2009, 01:05 AM	#37
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Justin, Not cool. No one here was taken advantage of..We all contribute as the subject interests us. Offered dibs? A good price? You must be young and don't realize the nature of the open free market. Many if not most of the people who help here don't want everything that appears and certainly don't expect charity. I think most people who frequent this Forum will continue to interact with no demand for special favors. Sorry, but I have a hard time wishing you well on your sale. Hope you relist it to infinity, and I intend to steer clear of your brick and mortar store if you have one. This is hatefull and beyond the pale. Certainly not the kind of behavior I or any of our members expect and I think you owe Tom an apology if you expect to remain around here long. When a Moderator reads this you may get some attention you deserve. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-17-2009, 04:54 PM	#21
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, I haven't figured out what I am going to do with this gun, as it really doesn't fit my collection, BUT, it is so beautiful, it is hard to part with it. I suppose if the right offer comes along.....they say everything has a price! Anyways, I am glad it brought some interest into your lives. If any more info comes available, I will post it here. THANKS to all who responded. Tom

03-18-2009, 08:21 AM	#22
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 214 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	looks like chipped breach block next to extractor in pic.

03-18-2009, 07:12 PM	#24
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	There is no chip anywhere, I believe it is a reflection of the light. The date is 1921 on the chamber, so it was obviously made after 1918. When, and by whom, is the question. The quality of the work is excellent, everywhere one looks. If anyone is interested in this gun, please contact me, and we will talk. It is so unique, that a direct value is difficult to establish. I guess it is worth whatever one is willing to pay for it.

03-20-2009, 08:56 AM	#26
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Stupid me! Thanks! Heaven help us, I must be a repro too!

03-20-2009, 07:45 PM	#28
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 214 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	Must be reflection on left side. looked like the extractor caught the block.Better put my glasses on. The work does look very nice, and wouldnt mind having it in my safe. good find, thats for sure.

03-22-2009, 01:56 PM	#29
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	Hi anybody know if there is a problem with ffl transfer of a pistol with no serial ? state is texas searched thru prior postings - seems like a roll of the dice thanks Bill

03-22-2009, 05:45 PM	#30
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	No problem, Thousands of guns were turned out prior to the 1968 gun laws with no serial numbers. Where the serial goes in the paperwork simply write N/A.

03-26-2009, 11:32 AM	#31
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Yup, no problem with no serial number, we use NSN for the serial number column. I really do appreciate all of the comments on this old girl. She really is a piece of work. I have not fired it nor have I even tried to load it, as it looks so fine just sitting in her case.

04-24-2009, 11:28 AM	#32
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	We have just listed this gun for sale on the "green" auction site. Thank you to all who contributed to our quest for information on this gun.

04-24-2009, 02:43 PM	#35
sovblocgunfan User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dear Petesguns, Not cool. I think you took advantage of the willingness of the kind people on this site to help you do research on this. You could have at least offered dibs or at least a good price or heads-up to those people who helped you. Other forums are not this generous w/ their info for this very reason. Sorry, but I have a hard time wishing you well on your sale. Hope you relist it to infinity, and I intend to steer clear of your brick and mortar store if you have one.

04-25-2009, 11:11 PM	#36
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Oh well, feel that way. I asked for info and was given much good information. None of it was conclusive, but I did not EXPECT to get anything concrete. I will add that the gun was offered to a couple of people from this forum but it was declined. No problem, it did not sell in the shop, so a broader venue was chosen to market it. I am sorry you do not approve, but I did not see it in the fine print that I had to ask YOUR permission to sell MY gun. To all the other FINE people who attempted to help me, I again thank you for your input to my quest to try to find some info about this vexing piece. I also don't really care if it sells or not, but decided to offer it up anyway.

04-26-2009, 11:03 AM	#38
sovblocgunfan User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fair enough. No apology will be given, however. Mods (including you, Mr. Burney), do what you will.

04-26-2009, 11:16 AM	#39
petesguns User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Readsboro, VT Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	A couple of members were interested in this gun, and it was offered to them. I certainly am not upset it was not accepted. I decided to put it up on a national venue to see if anyone would decide they really wanted it as a unique addition to their collection. It certainly would have a better home in the hands of a Luger collector, than in my shop, where it is certainly appreciated, but does not get the specific attention it would get in a dedicated collection. I really don't care if it sells or not, as it is certainly a wonderful piece, even in my own non dedicated collection. I also TOTALLY appreciate the helpful attempts from all but one member here at trying to help me find some info on this gun, as that is really what forums are for, sharing of information and knowledge. I need no apology, as it would most likely be hollow in meaning. This is a unique gun, and I knew NOTHING about it when I acquired it. I now know alot more about it, due in most part to this forum and it's generous members. I DO hope that those who have viewed it, have enjoyed it. Well, all but one of you. Take care, and again, thank you.

04-26-2009, 12:26 PM	#40
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Justin..Mr. Burney..You have me at a disadvantage sir...since you do not have the stones to sign your own posts. Personal attacks are NOT tolerated on this Forum. Your childish behavior towards Tom stamps you as immature and your response to tone down your outlandish hateful attack shows me you are NOT a desirable contributor to these boards. This is a very poor way to start out as a new member. You could have at least offered dibs or at least a good price..begging for charity strikes me as extremely pathetic. Had I written this childish tirade... I would beg forgiveness. As for what our Moderators will do I cannot say but with no explanation or contrition you'd be history to me. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."