DWM Commercial Database Available - Page 2

Aaron · 08-12-2006, 03:30 PM

Yes, both upright.

MFC · 10-07-2006, 02:58 AM

Dwight
I emailed you info. on my 1920 com. but didn't get reply. I needed to add info. anyway. 30 cal. S# 3686 P. I think it's a "P" but the bottom of the loop is not closed. Possibly lower case "r". Looks more like a "P" to me. Upright C/N on barrel, left side of receiver and left side of breechblock. Germany on frame rail above takedown. Takedown #s are on bottom.Safety has GERICHERT, and is on in the down position. No grip safety. GELADEN on extractor. 3 7/8" barrel. Has stock lug.
Mike C.

Dwight Gruber · 10-07-2006, 04:25 AM

Mike,

Apologies if I did not get back to you, it looks like I never got your email...

Anyway, thanks very much for the information, I'm glad to get every addition.

--Dwight

c3006 · 12-02-2006, 10:16 PM

Dwight
Im not sure of the date on mine mabe a 1914. Its about 95% SN#85725 with germany under the sn on the front of frame. It has a upright crown ove n on left side and a horizontal one on the toggle and a vertical one over the sn under the barrel. The sn is on the bottom of the takedown and it is 30 cal with no grip saftey. No proof marks of any kind on the right side. Hope this helps clint

Dwight Gruber · 12-03-2006, 03:06 AM

Clint,

Thanks very much for the report. It would be very unusual and noteworthy if this gun has a date on the chamber. Could you tell me, is it stamped GERMANY anywhere?

--Dwight

c3006 · 12-03-2006, 07:20 AM

Nope no date on the chamber but it does have germany on the front of the frame under the SN thanks clint

c3006 · 12-03-2006, 09:28 AM

Dwight
Seems I have found another one I didnt know I had SN# 5580 suffix L made in germany on left side of barrel no chamber mark DWM on toggle all numbers match in 30 cal. The small parts all seem to be numbered on the bottom. Wood bottom mag with no markings. has about 95% blue and 80% straw and the best halos around the numbers of any of my pistols. Anything you could tell me as far as date and value would be helpful. Thanks clint

Dwight Gruber · 12-03-2006, 11:21 AM

Clint,

Thanks very much for the extra info.

Your 20DWM sn 85725 was made very early in 1921. In my database, sn 85260 is the last 1920-dated Commercial I have recorded, and sn 85473 is the first 1921 date recorded.

Your Alphabet Commercial sn 5580l was probably made early 1923. Over the last few years I have bought Alphabet Commercials for as little as $550, and realized as much as $750 in trade value. Only the best examples bring the higher prices, the value of these guns falls of sharply in lower condition. 20DWM are worth quite a bit more.

--Dwight

jericho144 · 04-23-2007, 04:55 PM

I have a 1936 S/42 serial # 5221 brown grips with 21's all over the parts barrel etc. Anyone help out a newby with a valuation

Dwight Gruber · 04-23-2007, 08:25 PM

Jericho144,

Your post is pretty deep in a very specialized discussion. You will get a better response if you start a new topic in the "All P-08 Military Lugers" Forum.

--Dwight

CD Woods · 10-19-2008, 12:31 AM

Just to share with you, I have a 1921 DWM Commercial 9mm Luger. Serial # 86883. All parts same serial number.Handle has 18.R.10.16 I understand 18th Infantry Regiment, Company 10, weapon # 16(R is larger font, 18 and 16 are medium and 10 is a smaller font) It has the "Dove of Peace" Stamp 2 times on the right side of slide, and one on the Bolt.I believe this means it was a Weimar Weapon Depot Guard Weapon. Weapon was re-blued at some point. Bore is fantastic and it shoots excellent

LU1900 · 10-19-2008, 09:05 AM

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wlyon · 10-15-2009, 05:28 PM

Dwight
Two 1906 AE's in a Colorado gunshop. Serial number 55171, Good condition and Serial number 66775 Very good condition. Germany on both. $1895 and $2395. Both I believe are 30's. Bill

FNorm · 10-15-2009, 07:28 PM

Dwight,

I may have missed the start of all this.

I have 9639m. No AE. Upright C/N on left side under the numbers, C/N underside the barrel, but no barrel numbers or witness mark. There is one WM, on the frame. Possibly re-barreled? 7.65. Germany on the frame front, under the numbers. An odd breech. On the L. side is a lazy C/N stamped over an upright Erfurt eagle. Mid toggle another lazy C/N. All nos. match.

FN

aff96 · 07-05-2010, 06:07 PM

Hi Dwight,
I'm new to the forum and have a 1920? commercial.
Not sure if this is what you're looking for?
But it has DWM on top & serial #1928. It has the nitro markings and a symbol almost like an elongated small "n" or "r" on the bottom barrel & in another place. Has Germany stamped on the side.
Hope the helps.
Greg

Robert62 · 02-11-2012, 04:49 PM

Hi Dwight,

Saw this one at auction, here's the link.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=272637595
BTW, I live in naselle Wa. Across the river from Astoria pretty near you.
Bob

DocDave · 05-12-2012, 02:50 PM

Dwight,

I have what I believe is a DWM Commerical Luger without a date on it but matched serial numbers 4051.

I didn't see that on your list. Any comments.

Thanks You so Much

Doc Dave

earlyluger · 07-16-2012, 10:13 PM

Hello,

Recently acquired a an early DWM Commercial Luger, SN#13225, no proof marks, matching serial numbers on parts, DWM scroll on toggle, V and U marks on receiver bottom next to barrel indexing mark , no other marks. Would appreciate any possible info on the gun, like date of manufacture.

JesseMc · 11-10-2013, 06:18 PM

Dwight - I am new to Forum and wondering if you are still taking information. If so, I can provide details or you can see my post ("First Post - DWM 30 Caliber Luger") on October 29, 2013. I am amazed at the amount of work you did for that database. THANKS!

10-07-2006, 02:58 AM	#22
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Dwight I emailed you info. on my 1920 com. but didn't get reply. I needed to add info. anyway. 30 cal. S# 3686 P. I think it's a "P" but the bottom of the loop is not closed. Possibly lower case "r". Looks more like a "P" to me. Upright C/N on barrel, left side of receiver and left side of breechblock. Germany on frame rail above takedown. Takedown #s are on bottom.Safety has GERICHERT, and is on in the down position. No grip safety. GELADEN on extractor. 3 7/8" barrel. Has stock lug. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

12-02-2006, 10:16 PM	#24
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Dwight Im not sure of the date on mine mabe a 1914. Its about 95% SN#85725 with germany under the sn on the front of frame. It has a upright crown ove n on left side and a horizontal one on the toggle and a vertical one over the sn under the barrel. The sn is on the bottom of the takedown and it is 30 cal with no grip saftey. No proof marks of any kind on the right side. Hope this helps clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

12-03-2006, 07:20 AM	#26
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Nope no date on the chamber but it does have germany on the front of the frame under the SN thanks clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

12-03-2006, 09:28 AM	#27
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Dwight Seems I have found another one I didnt know I had SN# 5580 suffix L made in germany on left side of barrel no chamber mark DWM on toggle all numbers match in 30 cal. The small parts all seem to be numbered on the bottom. Wood bottom mag with no markings. has about 95% blue and 80% straw and the best halos around the numbers of any of my pistols. Anything you could tell me as far as date and value would be helpful. Thanks clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

10-19-2008, 09:05 AM	#32
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08-12-2006, 03:30 PM	#21
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Yes, both upright.

10-07-2006, 04:25 AM	#23
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Mike, Apologies if I did not get back to you, it looks like I never got your email... Anyway, thanks very much for the information, I'm glad to get every addition. --Dwight

12-03-2006, 03:06 AM	#25
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Clint, Thanks very much for the report. It would be very unusual and noteworthy if this gun has a date on the chamber. Could you tell me, is it stamped GERMANY anywhere? --Dwight

12-03-2006, 11:21 AM	#28
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Clint, Thanks very much for the extra info. Your 20DWM sn 85725 was made very early in 1921. In my database, sn 85260 is the last 1920-dated Commercial I have recorded, and sn 85473 is the first 1921 date recorded. Your Alphabet Commercial sn 5580l was probably made early 1923. Over the last few years I have bought Alphabet Commercials for as little as $550, and realized as much as $750 in trade value. Only the best examples bring the higher prices, the value of these guns falls of sharply in lower condition. 20DWM are worth quite a bit more. --Dwight

04-23-2007, 04:55 PM	#29
jericho144 New User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a 1936 S/42 serial # 5221 brown grips with 21's all over the parts barrel etc. Anyone help out a newby with a valuation

04-23-2007, 08:25 PM	#30
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Jericho144, Your post is pretty deep in a very specialized discussion. You will get a better response if you start a new topic in the "All P-08 Military Lugers" Forum. --Dwight

10-19-2008, 12:31 AM	#31
CD Woods New User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just to share with you, I have a 1921 DWM Commercial 9mm Luger. Serial # 86883. All parts same serial number.Handle has 18.R.10.16 I understand 18th Infantry Regiment, Company 10, weapon # 16(R is larger font, 18 and 16 are medium and 10 is a smaller font) It has the "Dove of Peace" Stamp 2 times on the right side of slide, and one on the Bolt.I believe this means it was a Weimar Weapon Depot Guard Weapon. Weapon was re-blued at some point. Bore is fantastic and it shoots excellent

10-15-2009, 05:28 PM	#33
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	Dwight Two 1906 AE's in a Colorado gunshop. Serial number 55171, Good condition and Serial number 66775 Very good condition. Germany on both. $1895 and $2395. Both I believe are 30's. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-15-2009, 07:28 PM	#34
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Dwight, I may have missed the start of all this. I have 9639m. No AE. Upright C/N on left side under the numbers, C/N underside the barrel, but no barrel numbers or witness mark. There is one WM, on the frame. Possibly re-barreled? 7.65. Germany on the frame front, under the numbers. An odd breech. On the L. side is a lazy C/N stamped over an upright Erfurt eagle. Mid toggle another lazy C/N. All nos. match. FN Last edited by FNorm; 10-15-2009 at 07:29 PM. Reason: edit

07-05-2010, 06:07 PM	#35
aff96 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Dwight, I'm new to the forum and have a 1920? commercial. Not sure if this is what you're looking for? But it has DWM on top & serial #1928. It has the nitro markings and a symbol almost like an elongated small "n" or "r" on the bottom barrel & in another place. Has Germany stamped on the side. Hope the helps. Greg

02-11-2012, 04:49 PM	#36
Robert62 New User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southwest Washington Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Dwight, Saw this one at auction, here's the link. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=272637595 BTW, I live in naselle Wa. Across the river from Astoria pretty near you. Bob

05-12-2012, 02:50 PM	#37
DocDave User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Data base Dwight, I have what I believe is a DWM Commerical Luger without a date on it but matched serial numbers 4051. I didn't see that on your list. Any comments. Thanks You so Much Doc Dave

07-16-2012, 10:13 PM	#38
earlyluger User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 27 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hello, Recently acquired a an early DWM Commercial Luger, SN#13225, no proof marks, matching serial numbers on parts, DWM scroll on toggle, V and U marks on receiver bottom next to barrel indexing mark , no other marks. Would appreciate any possible info on the gun, like date of manufacture.

11-10-2013, 06:18 PM	#39
JesseMc User Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Dwight - I am new to Forum and wondering if you are still taking information. If so, I can provide details or you can see my post ("First Post - DWM 30 Caliber Luger") on October 29, 2013. I am amazed at the amount of work you did for that database. THANKS!