Help in Identifying 2 Lugers

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 11:55 AM

I recently came into possession of 2 Lugers and am wanting help with identifying and valuation. Below are pics of the first one.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Edward Tinker · 05-02-2011, 12:02 PM

Caliber? (assume 30 luger)

Serial number, including suffix?

Edward Tinker · 05-02-2011, 12:08 PM

Actually, the safety lever should not be blued, so i would say, its all been reblued, but would need better pictures

A 30 caliber shooter is worth from $450-$650, they are less desirable than 9mm, one reason is the rounds are so much more and the other is that they are not military, but commercial guns.

Ed

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 12:09 PM

Here's another pic.

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 12:29 PM

Here are some pics of the 2nd Luger

Edward Tinker · 05-02-2011, 12:42 PM

Sorry, if you don't add words it makes it too hard. Pictures are essential, but serial number, markings, etc, must be known, plus caliber.

lugerholsterrepair · 05-02-2011, 12:48 PM

Gregory..Little to nothing that you don't already know can be told from photo's like this.
Like Ed says..you need an in depth description and closeup photo's of important areas.

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 01:28 PM

I'm sorry for the lack of details. I'll add more. Although I am a gun enthusiast and have many firearms, I know nothing of Lugers. They came to me when I was cleaning out the attic of an old farmhouse we bought some time ago. I found 7 long arms and 8 pistols in excellent to new condition, most in boxes. 2 of them were these Lugers. These were packed into an old cardboard pistol box, wrapped in plastic, without papers. I thought they were 9mm until I checked the chambers against some 9mm I had, so they must be .30 Luger. I'll get some more info up before the end of the day.

lugerholsterrepair · 05-02-2011, 01:33 PM

Gregory, .30 luger information goes a long way..both are likely commercials.The bottom one has some sort of target front sight?

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 01:39 PM

Where would the serial numbers be located? The only numbers I found upon inspecting these were the numbers on the first 2636 one and 2225 on the second. The first one does appear to have more wear and possibly reblued, while the second has no pitting and looks to have original bluing.

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 01:42 PM

Jerry the front sight is definately different on the second and appears to be a target sight. Both are also marked Germany, although in different places, I'm assuming for the export market.

lugerholsterrepair · 05-02-2011, 01:53 PM

Gregory..GERMANY is usually found on Weimar era pistols exported to an English speaking country most likely the USA in the 1920's.

Serials should be found on the front frame and under the barrel. Might include a letter suffix too.
Other numbers..the last 2 didgits of a 4 number serial might be found hidden on commercial pistols under the bottom edge of the sideplate, safety lever, takedown lever or on the back of the toggle train. Could also be on the inside of the grips.

Edward Tinker · 05-02-2011, 02:21 PM

On the second one, does it have a crown N on the left?

If not restored, then worth around $1200 because it is in excellent shape.

That said, it looks too nice to me.... Also, is that a hairline crack on the top of the toggle?

The toggle would be numbered to the frame (last 2 of the sn), if it is bad, then its value is about what I said for the other one.

Ed

G. R. Carter · 05-02-2011, 09:43 PM

There is a crown n on the left and all numbers match on the second one. All numbers match on the first as well. There is no crack, they just need to be cleaned up. Some of the plastic/cellophane that it was sealed in seams to have stuck to it. What is the best method for removing that?

05-02-2011, 11:55 AM	#1
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help in Identifying 2 Lugers I recently came into possession of 2 Lugers and am wanting help with identifying and valuation. Below are pics of the first one. Thanks in advance for any help! Attached Thumbnails

05-02-2011, 12:08 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Actually, the safety lever should not be blued, so i would say, its all been reblued, but would need better pictures A 30 caliber shooter is worth from $450-$650, they are less desirable than 9mm, one reason is the rounds are so much more and the other is that they are not military, but commercial guns. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-02-2011, 12:09 PM	#4
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Additional pic Here's another pic. Attached Thumbnails

05-02-2011, 12:29 PM	#5
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2nd Luger Here are some pics of the 2nd Luger Attached Thumbnails

05-02-2011, 12:48 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Gregory..Little to nothing that you don't already know can be told from photo's like this. Like Ed says..you need an in depth description and closeup photo's of important areas. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-02-2011, 12:02 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Caliber? (assume 30 luger) Serial number, including suffix?

05-02-2011, 12:42 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Sorry, if you don't add words it makes it too hard. Pictures are essential, but serial number, markings, etc, must be known, plus caliber.

05-02-2011, 01:28 PM	#8
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm sorry for the lack of details. I'll add more. Although I am a gun enthusiast and have many firearms, I know nothing of Lugers. They came to me when I was cleaning out the attic of an old farmhouse we bought some time ago. I found 7 long arms and 8 pistols in excellent to new condition, most in boxes. 2 of them were these Lugers. These were packed into an old cardboard pistol box, wrapped in plastic, without papers. I thought they were 9mm until I checked the chambers against some 9mm I had, so they must be .30 Luger. I'll get some more info up before the end of the day.

05-02-2011, 01:33 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Gregory, .30 luger information goes a long way..both are likely commercials.The bottom one has some sort of target front sight? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-02-2011, 01:39 PM	#10
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Where would the serial numbers be located? The only numbers I found upon inspecting these were the numbers on the first 2636 one and 2225 on the second. The first one does appear to have more wear and possibly reblued, while the second has no pitting and looks to have original bluing.

05-02-2011, 01:42 PM	#11
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jerry the front sight is definately different on the second and appears to be a target sight. Both are also marked Germany, although in different places, I'm assuming for the export market.

05-02-2011, 01:53 PM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Gregory..GERMANY is usually found on Weimar era pistols exported to an English speaking country most likely the USA in the 1920's. Serials should be found on the front frame and under the barrel. Might include a letter suffix too. Other numbers..the last 2 didgits of a 4 number serial might be found hidden on commercial pistols under the bottom edge of the sideplate, safety lever, takedown lever or on the back of the toggle train. Could also be on the inside of the grips. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-02-2011, 02:21 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	On the second one, does it have a crown N on the left? If not restored, then worth around $1200 because it is in excellent shape. That said, it looks too nice to me.... Also, is that a hairline crack on the top of the toggle? The toggle would be numbered to the frame (last 2 of the sn), if it is bad, then its value is about what I said for the other one. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-02-2011, 09:43 PM	#14
G. R. Carter User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There is a crown n on the left and all numbers match on the second one. All numbers match on the first as well. There is no crack, they just need to be cleaned up. Some of the plastic/cellophane that it was sealed in seams to have stuck to it. What is the best method for removing that?