Anybody in Missouri going to this gun auction?

Dan44 · 07-10-2006, 12:02 PM

Saw this on the net. It's two hrs from my brothers and I gave it some thought. Lot's of nice stuff but too far, too expensive and not enough time to get off work.
http://www.lollibros.com/dower1.htm

Pete Ebbink · 07-10-2006, 12:15 PM

Lot # 44 is a 1943 HK luger.

Shouldn't the right side of the magazine release be fire-blued and not strawed ?

John Sabato · 07-10-2006, 12:52 PM

The items in the photo appear gold plated to me and not strawed... certainly not factory finish...

John Sabato · 07-10-2006, 12:54 PM

Several Krieghoffs in this lot... someone ought to tell John D.

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Dan44 · 07-10-2006, 01:27 PM

If I had more of a heads up I could of gone. Live gun auctions are a rush!

Ron Smith · 07-10-2006, 03:07 PM

The man was definitly a collector. Looks like he never met a gun that he didn't like.

George Anderson · 07-10-2006, 10:07 PM

The auction house has mis identified a number of the pieces, it may end up quite a chaotic event.

Mike B · 07-11-2006, 11:13 PM

Is anyone going? Looks like I spotted a 9mm Eagle I would like to know more about. Please let me know @ bayoucellar@aol.com

Thanks,
Mike

Edward Tinker · 07-11-2006, 11:39 PM

I called them today, handed me off to three people and didn't call back.

There is also a huge listing of lugers and other guns they are selling as "parts"... I think there will be so many guns that prices will be very reasonable.

Ed

Mike B · 07-11-2006, 11:50 PM

Ed,
This might be my only chance to buy my long sought after AE at an affordable price. Only problem is, I am in Louisiana and the Luger is in Missouri. There is telephone bidding, but can I trust their description?

Mike

Pete Ebbink · 07-12-2006, 12:10 AM

You guys might consider contacting Tom Heller who lives not too far from Macon in St. Charles, MO.

Maybe this auction is already on Tom's dance-card and he can act as your agent on a certain piece ???

Lugerdoc · 07-12-2006, 10:58 AM

I do plan to attend this auction and to purchase as many German pistol parts as possible. Since their descriptions are sketchy and some gun will be in larger lots with other guns, I don't choose to bid for anyone as their agent, plus I don't have a cell phone. If I can out bid Bob Simson & others, on some of the complete matching lugers, I will probably offer them first here on the Forum, with more complete descriptions, at Fair market prices. So if there is a particular lot that interest you, let me know and I'll try to get back to you with some details, before the auction, so that you can bid yourself. Tom

Edward Tinker · 07-12-2006, 07:10 PM

Well, my feelings on these guys has changed, all for the better

. They called me back, talked to me for a while, gave me to another lady who sent me detailed pictures (well much better, enough to help me decide).

I think they are doing pretty good for so many weapons for sale.

Ed

Mike B · 07-12-2006, 09:27 PM

Guys,
I spoke to Jim at the Lollibros auction today; he was most helpful. He laid out all the American Eagle Lugers for me and asked that I call back when he had time to evaluate them. He offered me his honest opinion of each one. There are two 9mm, one is a parts pistol and one about 70%. There are two other, 7.65 that he did not get into as I had no interest in that caliber. You might want to give him a call.
Mike

Lugerdoc · 07-15-2006, 09:27 AM

Hi Guys, I just spent the last 2 days previewing the items up for auction. The bad news is, that most are pitted or rusty from 10 years of storage in a wet cellar after the collector's passing. Only one or two had matching mags and some have repro or no mags at all. Quite a few of the lugers have renumbered parts, so I wouldn't advise bidding long distance or I'm afraid that you will be very disappointed, as the folks running the auction, don't know much about these pistols. The good news is, that all of the advertised Artillery models are actually Navys, but most mismatched in poor condition. No buyers premium or phone bidding during the auction although your can leave a max bid range, in advance. I'll be there bidding on many items for use as parts. TH

Don M · 07-18-2006, 07:15 PM

Now here's something that will break your hearts.

I talked to Jim Lolli and he told me that after receiving the guns, he asked Mr. Dower's sister whether there were any holsters or other items that were part of the collection. She told him that the family had collected many large tubs of moldy holsters, parts, etc. and had taken them to the dump a couple of months ago.

thegundude · 07-18-2006, 10:29 PM

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She told him that the family had collected many large tubs of moldy holsters, parts, etc. and had taken them to the dump a couple of months ago.

AARRGGHHHHHH!!!!!!

Man, the sheer, unadulterated stupidity of some people!!!

Edward Tinker · 07-23-2006, 12:04 AM

Did anyone happen to know how much these lots went for?

Lot 548. Japanese Papa Nambu 8mm sn 2549
Lot 549. Japanese Papa Nambu 8mm sn 3695
Lot 550. Japanese Papa Nambu 8mm sn 4092
Lot 551. Japanese Baby Nambu 7mm sn 3876
Lot 552. Japanese Grandpa Nambu 8mm sn 1852
Lot 609 Simson parts gun

Lot 1221 magazines
Lot 1223 magazines
Lot 1224 magazines

thanks, ed

Navy · 07-23-2006, 12:02 PM

Auction results posted on Jan's board.

Tom A

Edward Tinker · 07-23-2006, 12:20 PM

thanks, but Fred didn't stay for everything...

07-10-2006, 12:02 PM	#1
Dan44 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Anybody in Missouri going to this gun auction? Saw this on the net. It's two hrs from my brothers and I gave it some thought. Lot's of nice stuff but too far, too expensive and not enough time to get off work. http://www.lollibros.com/dower1.htm

07-10-2006, 12:52 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	The items in the photo appear gold plated to me and not strawed... certainly not factory finish... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-10-2006, 12:54 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Several Krieghoffs in this lot... someone ought to tell John D. ! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-10-2006, 03:07 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The man was definitly a collector. Looks like he never met a gun that he didn't like. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-11-2006, 11:39 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	I called them today, handed me off to three people and didn't call back. There is also a huge listing of lugers and other guns they are selling as "parts"... I think there will be so many guns that prices will be very reasonable. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-10-2006, 12:15 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Lot # 44 is a 1943 HK luger. Shouldn't the right side of the magazine release be fire-blued and not strawed ?

07-10-2006, 01:27 PM	#5
Dan44 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	If I had more of a heads up I could of gone. Live gun auctions are a rush!

07-10-2006, 10:07 PM	#7
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	The auction house has mis identified a number of the pieces, it may end up quite a chaotic event.

07-11-2006, 11:13 PM	#8
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Is anyone going? Looks like I spotted a 9mm Eagle I would like to know more about. Please let me know @ bayoucellar@aol.com Thanks, Mike

07-11-2006, 11:50 PM	#10
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Ed, This might be my only chance to buy my long sought after AE at an affordable price. Only problem is, I am in Louisiana and the Luger is in Missouri. There is telephone bidding, but can I trust their description? Mike

07-12-2006, 12:10 AM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	You guys might consider contacting Tom Heller who lives not too far from Macon in St. Charles, MO. Maybe this auction is already on Tom's dance-card and he can act as your agent on a certain piece ???

07-12-2006, 10:58 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I do plan to attend this auction and to purchase as many German pistol parts as possible. Since their descriptions are sketchy and some gun will be in larger lots with other guns, I don't choose to bid for anyone as their agent, plus I don't have a cell phone. If I can out bid Bob Simson & others, on some of the complete matching lugers, I will probably offer them first here on the Forum, with more complete descriptions, at Fair market prices. So if there is a particular lot that interest you, let me know and I'll try to get back to you with some details, before the auction, so that you can bid yourself. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-12-2006, 07:10 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Well, my feelings on these guys has changed, all for the better . They called me back, talked to me for a while, gave me to another lady who sent me detailed pictures (well much better, enough to help me decide). I think they are doing pretty good for so many weapons for sale. Ed

07-12-2006, 09:27 PM	#14
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Guys, I spoke to Jim at the Lollibros auction today; he was most helpful. He laid out all the American Eagle Lugers for me and asked that I call back when he had time to evaluate them. He offered me his honest opinion of each one. There are two 9mm, one is a parts pistol and one about 70%. There are two other, 7.65 that he did not get into as I had no interest in that caliber. You might want to give him a call. Mike

07-15-2006, 09:27 AM	#15
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Macon, MO. Auction Hi Guys, I just spent the last 2 days previewing the items up for auction. The bad news is, that most are pitted or rusty from 10 years of storage in a wet cellar after the collector's passing. Only one or two had matching mags and some have repro or no mags at all. Quite a few of the lugers have renumbered parts, so I wouldn't advise bidding long distance or I'm afraid that you will be very disappointed, as the folks running the auction, don't know much about these pistols. The good news is, that all of the advertised Artillery models are actually Navys, but most mismatched in poor condition. No buyers premium or phone bidding during the auction although your can leave a max bid range, in advance. I'll be there bidding on many items for use as parts. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-18-2006, 07:15 PM	#16
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Now here's something that will break your hearts. I talked to Jim Lolli and he told me that after receiving the guns, he asked Mr. Dower's sister whether there were any holsters or other items that were part of the collection. She told him that the family had collected many large tubs of moldy holsters, parts, etc. and had taken them to the dump a couple of months ago. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

07-23-2006, 12:04 AM	#18
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Did anyone happen to know how much these lots went for? Lot 548. Japanese Papa Nambu 8mm sn 2549 Lot 549. Japanese Papa Nambu 8mm sn 3695 Lot 550. Japanese Papa Nambu 8mm sn 4092 Lot 551. Japanese Baby Nambu 7mm sn 3876 Lot 552. Japanese Grandpa Nambu 8mm sn 1852 Lot 609 Simson parts gun Lot 1221 magazines Lot 1223 magazines Lot 1224 magazines thanks, ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-23-2006, 12:02 PM	#19
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Auction results posted on Jan's board. Tom A

07-23-2006, 12:20 PM	#20
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	thanks, but Fred didn't stay for everything...