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BriarW · 10-11-2013, 07:35 PM

Hi all.
I'm new here, so forgive me if I make a fool of myself. I have had this luger for several years now; it was my sixteenth birthday present way back when. I would like to know a bit more about it. I tried to post some fairly clear pictures, but some of the lighting looks a little bad; for the most part I think everything should be distinguishable. My father bought it for about 300 bucks with the holster and the clips (none of which match, to the best of my knowledge). Interestingly enough I found an old pricetag in the holster for a company called Farwell Ozman Kirk (Farwell Arms Company), which may be relevant to everything, or perhaps just the holster. It is a 30 caliber. If anyone has any information on it, it would be greatly appreciated.

BriarW · 10-11-2013, 07:37 PM

more markings

BriarW · 10-11-2013, 07:40 PM

clips, holster

lugerholsterrepair · 10-11-2013, 08:33 PM

Can't say about the paper label but the holster is a military as are all 3 mags. The pistol is commercial.

Edward Tinker · 10-11-2013, 09:01 PM

Nice close ups, but really, the best might be, full left, full right and a full top.

I am guessing it has no date on it?

Unless it is a WW1 that was re-arsenaled (very possible) for commercial sales. It could also be a 1920 or 1921 new made and sold as a commercial sale.

Does it have 'germany' stamped anywhere on it?

The three magazines are WW2 era - yours would have come with a wood base mag

All the assorted small numbers and letters on the luger are called factory worker stamps and mean nothing. The small markings on the luger mags are acceptance markings.

mrerick · 10-11-2013, 10:29 PM

Today, your military magazines and holster are worth about double what was originally paid for the entire kit.

The Luger looks like it was probably refinished at some point. I cannot see the normally found "halos" around the barrel serial number.

Do you have specific questions about what you have?

Marc

Try taking your pictures outdoors with indirect light and no flash. They will look more natural and provide more detail.

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2013, 10:49 PM

Looks like a nice commercial Luger to me. Congratulations on your way cool birthday present. The mags. and holster don't match the gun, and are worth quite a bit. Also one photo shows the letters "FXO". Are those on a magazine or are those stamped on the gun frame itself? I can't make that out in the photo.
dju

Edward Tinker · 10-11-2013, 11:15 PM

FXO is on the mag, that is in the luger with the grip off

BriarW · 10-12-2013, 10:09 AM

Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

Edward Tinker:
I was unable to find "Germany" stamped anywhere. Your correct that there is no date.

mrerick:

I attached a slightly better picture of the markings under the barrel. There does not appear to be any halos. I also attached some pictures of the whole sides without flash to get a better look at the finish.

Essentially I just wanted to know the worth, the year is was made, and whether or not it saw action.

Thanks for the advice on the photos.

lugersrkewl · 10-12-2013, 06:46 PM

If the letter under the number on the frame is a Q then it was made in 1927. The strawing looks odd. Its in very nice condition but the strawed parts look freshly brillo padded or something. Price wise if all original around a grand tops for just the pistol is what I would give you. Messed with in any way 500 or less depending on finish.

10-11-2013, 07:35 PM	#1
BriarW New User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 4 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Firstpost_luger_id Hi all. I'm new here, so forgive me if I make a fool of myself. I have had this luger for several years now; it was my sixteenth birthday present way back when. I would like to know a bit more about it. I tried to post some fairly clear pictures, but some of the lighting looks a little bad; for the most part I think everything should be distinguishable. My father bought it for about 300 bucks with the holster and the clips (none of which match, to the best of my knowledge). Interestingly enough I found an old pricetag in the holster for a company called Farwell Ozman Kirk (Farwell Arms Company), which may be relevant to everything, or perhaps just the holster. It is a 30 caliber. If anyone has any information on it, it would be greatly appreciated. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

10-11-2013, 07:37 PM	#2
BriarW New User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 4 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	more pictures more markings Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

10-11-2013, 07:40 PM	#3
BriarW New User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 4 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	misc. clips, holster Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

10-11-2013, 08:33 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,766 Thanks: 4,883 Thanked 3,121 Times in 1,432 Posts	Can't say about the paper label but the holster is a military as are all 3 mags. The pistol is commercial. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-11-2013, 09:01 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Nice close ups, but really, the best might be, full left, full right and a full top. I am guessing it has no date on it? Unless it is a WW1 that was re-arsenaled (very possible) for commercial sales. It could also be a 1920 or 1921 new made and sold as a commercial sale. Does it have 'germany' stamped anywhere on it? The three magazines are WW2 era - yours would have come with a wood base mag All the assorted small numbers and letters on the luger are called factory worker stamps and mean nothing. The small markings on the luger mags are acceptance markings. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-11-2013, 10:29 PM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Today, your military magazines and holster are worth about double what was originally paid for the entire kit. The Luger looks like it was probably refinished at some point. I cannot see the normally found "halos" around the barrel serial number. Do you have specific questions about what you have? Marc Try taking your pictures outdoors with indirect light and no flash. They will look more natural and provide more detail. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

10-11-2013, 10:49 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looks like a nice commercial Luger to me. Congratulations on your way cool birthday present. The mags. and holster don't match the gun, and are worth quite a bit. Also one photo shows the letters "FXO". Are those on a magazine or are those stamped on the gun frame itself? I can't make that out in the photo. dju

10-11-2013, 11:15 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	FXO is on the mag, that is in the luger with the grip off

10-12-2013, 10:09 AM	#9
BriarW New User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 4 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks everyone for the quick responses. Edward Tinker: I was unable to find "Germany" stamped anywhere. Your correct that there is no date. mrerick: I attached a slightly better picture of the markings under the barrel. There does not appear to be any halos. I also attached some pictures of the whole sides without flash to get a better look at the finish. Essentially I just wanted to know the worth, the year is was made, and whether or not it saw action. Thanks for the advice on the photos. Attached Thumbnails

10-12-2013, 06:46 PM	#10
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	If the letter under the number on the frame is a Q then it was made in 1927. The strawing looks odd. Its in very nice condition but the strawed parts look freshly brillo padded or something. Price wise if all original around a grand tops for just the pistol is what I would give you. Messed with in any way 500 or less depending on finish.