Hello Halo!!!

cirelaw · 02-13-2020, 09:29 PM

Why do some models have halos and others don't? Below is the 1906 French Contract with! Eric

mrerick · 02-13-2020, 09:54 PM

The ones with halos had dies stamped through the blued finish.

The ones without had the finish completed after they were die stamped.

The halo is actually stress on the surface around where the die stamp deformed the metal. This allows more of the unoxidized steel to show through.

cirelaw · 02-13-2020, 10:07 PM

I guess there are degrees of halos. 1917 DWM Artillery

cirelaw · 02-13-2020, 10:30 PM

Thank You, That makes Sence!!

cirelaw · 05-19-2020, 03:55 PM

Getting back to Frenchy, It occured to me, How come there no halo on the frame numbers and there is a halo of the lower serial numbers and French proof on the on the barrel? Are they different dies or different metals or other reasons?? Je Ne Sais Pas?

Ron Wood · 05-19-2020, 05:06 PM

No halo on frame number...numbered before bluing...the frame was inventory controlled from the start whereas the barrel was added in production and numbered after finish. I think you would have eventually figured that out yourself from the previous discussions on halos.

Also, what French proof? I don't see one.
Ron

cirelaw · 05-19-2020, 05:23 PM

The shield I thought was by DWM for the French market

Ron Wood · 05-19-2020, 05:45 PM

Nope, it is found on guns other than French...it is just a DWM barrel inspector's mark.

cirelaw · 05-19-2020, 05:49 PM

My mistake page 189, figure 106, Proof Marks "Early and late DWM bottom barrel inspector proof noted on 1906 Commercial and contract models"

02-13-2020, 09:29 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Hello Halo!!! Why do some models have halos and others don't? Below is the 1906 French Contract with! Eric Attached Thumbnails

02-13-2020, 09:54 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The ones with halos had dies stamped through the blued finish. The ones without had the finish completed after they were die stamped. The halo is actually stress on the surface around where the die stamp deformed the metal. This allows more of the unoxidized steel to show through. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-13-2020, 10:07 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I guess there are degrees of halos. 1917 DWM Artillery Attached Images

05-19-2020, 03:55 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Getting back to Frenchy, It occured to me, How come there no halo on the frame numbers and there is a halo of the lower serial numbers and French proof on the on the barrel? Are they different dies or different metals or other reasons?? Je Ne Sais Pas? Attached Images

05-19-2020, 05:06 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	No halo on frame number...numbered before bluing...the frame was inventory controlled from the start whereas the barrel was added in production and numbered after finish. I think you would have eventually figured that out yourself from the previous discussions on halos. Also, what French proof? I don't see one. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-13-2020, 10:30 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You, That makes Sence!!

05-19-2020, 05:23 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	The shield I thought was by DWM for the French market Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

05-19-2020, 05:45 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Nope, it is found on guns other than French...it is just a DWM barrel inspector's mark. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-19-2020, 05:49 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	My mistake page 189, figure 106, Proof Marks "Early and late DWM bottom barrel inspector proof noted on 1906 Commercial and contract models"