1910 Luger

CharlieK · 02-26-2012, 07:21 PM

I have a Luger that my wife's mother bought in the late 1970s from a woman who said that her late husband liberated it from a dead German officer in the First World War. Does anyone have any historical records from that era to confirm the officer's name or rank?

The serial numbers all match, including the magazine: 4099 On the front of the grip is this: 5.G.M.G.8.

Norme · 02-26-2012, 08:30 PM

Hi Charlie,, Welcome to the forum! The answer to your question is, no. There is no way to tell to whom your Luger was issued. However, it sounds like an interesting gun, and if you post photos of those grip strap markings we can tell you in which unit the soldier served. Regards, Norm

klaus 3338 · 02-27-2012, 01:29 AM

I would wonder if it was taken from a dead German officer in the Great War. Officers had Lugers in the commercial range.
I could have been a non commissioned officer.

mrerick · 02-27-2012, 10:51 AM

Just a guess, but would the unit mark be pre WW-I:

5th Prussian Gardekorps Maschinengewehr Kompagnie weapon 8 ?

Is it an artillery Luger, or a standard 4 inch barrel Luger?

Marc

CharlieK · 02-27-2012, 01:43 PM

Thanks, guys. I'll take some photos as soon as I can, and post them if I can figure out how to do that.

whcoyote · 02-29-2012, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

Just a guess, but would the unit mark be pre WW-I:

5th Prussian Gardekorps Maschinengewehr Kompagnie weapon 8 ?

Is it an artillery Luger, or a standard 4 inch barrel Luger?

Marc

There were no "Artillery" Lugers in 1910.

CharlieK · 03-01-2012, 10:01 PM

OK guys, how do I post photos here?

lugersrkewl · 03-01-2012, 11:55 PM

go to homepage where you can select all the different types of topics po8, swiss, etc. scroll down till you see new collector forum then click on that . there is a sticky that esplains how to post pics. other wise if you used a digital camera you would have to plug it in to yo computer with a usb and download them to your computer then make a new post and attach files via the manage attachments button below the new post square where you type in all of your words to say stuff.

CharlieK · 03-02-2012, 05:37 PM

Here are the photos that I have of my 1910 Luger. Thanks Lugersrkewl.

alanint · 03-02-2012, 07:25 PM

Hi Charlie,

Welcome aboard! She's a beauty. Nice early gun with original finish!

lugersrkewl · 03-02-2012, 09:27 PM

beautiful 1908 military chamber dated model.minor pitting nice finish, thanks for posting pics.

I dont know what the g.m.g stands for though

CharlieK · 03-03-2012, 12:02 AM

Can someone tell me what the three symbols in the third photo down represent?

Dwight Gruber · 03-03-2012, 03:17 AM

Left mark is an inspection mark certifying the receiver is properly hardened and the date has been stamped. Right mark is the military proof stamp certifying the assembled pistol has passed overpressure proof firing. Middle stamp is final inspection and acceptance by the army.

--Dwight

alvin · 03-03-2012, 06:44 AM

Early Luger without stocking lug is pretty!

JTD · 03-03-2012, 11:45 AM

Charlie, nice early DWM, My favorite! Sent you a pm.John

jfxcushman · 03-06-2012, 10:31 AM

Charlie, the regiment is the 5th Garde Regiment Machine Gun Company, Weapon number 8.
A real beauty!

CharlieK · 03-06-2012, 10:35 PM

Here are some additional photos of my 1910 Luger.

Hugo Borchardt · 03-06-2012, 10:46 PM

Very very nice rare Luger. I find it particularly interesting that the magazine appears to be stamped with a "flaming bomb" (pic 2).

Ron Wood · 03-06-2012, 10:49 PM

Oh my, what a great example and matching all around. Super! A fine piece and one that is exciting for an Imperial era collector like myself.

JTD · 03-07-2012, 06:25 AM

Charlie, I have to agree that it looks like a very nice pistol. It almost looks like an 8 on front of wood bottom. John

02-26-2012, 07:21 PM	#1
CharlieK User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1910 Luger I have a Luger that my wife's mother bought in the late 1970s from a woman who said that her late husband liberated it from a dead German officer in the First World War. Does anyone have any historical records from that era to confirm the officer's name or rank? The serial numbers all match, including the magazine: 4099 On the front of the grip is this: 5.G.M.G.8. __________________ Charlie

02-27-2012, 10:51 AM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Just a guess, but would the unit mark be pre WW-I: 5th Prussian Gardekorps Maschinengewehr Kompagnie weapon 8 ? Is it an artillery Luger, or a standard 4 inch barrel Luger? Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-27-2012, 01:43 PM	#5
CharlieK User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, guys. I'll take some photos as soon as I can, and post them if I can figure out how to do that. __________________ Charlie

03-01-2012, 10:01 PM	#7
CharlieK User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK guys, how do I post photos here? __________________ Charlie

03-02-2012, 05:37 PM	#9
CharlieK User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are the photos that I have of my 1910 Luger. Thanks Lugersrkewl. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Charlie

02-26-2012, 08:30 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Charlie,, Welcome to the forum! The answer to your question is, no. There is no way to tell to whom your Luger was issued. However, it sounds like an interesting gun, and if you post photos of those grip strap markings we can tell you in which unit the soldier served. Regards, Norm

02-27-2012, 01:29 AM	#3
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 409 Times in 160 Posts	I would wonder if it was taken from a dead German officer in the Great War. Officers had Lugers in the commercial range. I could have been a non commissioned officer.

03-01-2012, 11:55 PM	#8
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	go to homepage where you can select all the different types of topics po8, swiss, etc. scroll down till you see new collector forum then click on that . there is a sticky that esplains how to post pics. other wise if you used a digital camera you would have to plug it in to yo computer with a usb and download them to your computer then make a new post and attach files via the manage attachments button below the new post square where you type in all of your words to say stuff.

03-02-2012, 07:25 PM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Hi Charlie, Welcome aboard! She's a beauty. Nice early gun with original finish!

03-02-2012, 09:27 PM	#11
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	beautiful 1908 military chamber dated model.minor pitting nice finish, thanks for posting pics. I dont know what the g.m.g stands for though

03-03-2012, 12:02 AM	#12
CharlieK User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can someone tell me what the three symbols in the third photo down represent? __________________ Charlie

03-03-2012, 03:17 AM	#13
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Left mark is an inspection mark certifying the receiver is properly hardened and the date has been stamped. Right mark is the military proof stamp certifying the assembled pistol has passed overpressure proof firing. Middle stamp is final inspection and acceptance by the army. --Dwight

03-03-2012, 06:44 AM	#14
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Early Luger without stocking lug is pretty!

03-03-2012, 11:45 AM	#15
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 217 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	Charlie, nice early DWM, My favorite! Sent you a pm.John

03-06-2012, 10:31 AM	#16
jfxcushman User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Charlie, the regiment is the 5th Garde Regiment Machine Gun Company, Weapon number 8. A real beauty!

03-06-2012, 10:35 PM	#17
CharlieK User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are some additional photos of my 1910 Luger. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Charlie

03-06-2012, 10:46 PM	#18
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	Very very nice rare Luger. I find it particularly interesting that the magazine appears to be stamped with a "flaming bomb" (pic 2). __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

03-06-2012, 10:49 PM	#19
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Oh my, what a great example and matching all around. Super! A fine piece and one that is exciting for an Imperial era collector like myself. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-07-2012, 06:25 AM	#20
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 217 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	Charlie, I have to agree that it looks like a very nice pistol. It almost looks like an 8 on front of wood bottom. John