Model 1869 Werder

Rbrooks45 · 05-29-2011, 02:10 PM

Just picked up a model 1869 Werder today and was wondering if anyone could help me with the unit ID. As you can see on the photo it is marked 3.A.6.2 and on the but plate 3 AR. 6 FB. any help would be appreciated.

George Anderson · 05-29-2011, 06:19 PM

First marking I would think is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 3, Batterie 6, Waffe 2. The second may actually be 3.AR.6.E.B. which I would think is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 6, Ersatz Batallion.

Ron Wood · 05-29-2011, 11:19 PM

Just for consideration, it seems that it may be a battallion staff weapon since it would be a bit of a jump from regiment all the way down to a battery weapon. So perhaps the first marking is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 3, Batallion 6, Waffe 2. I agree that the second marking probably has an "E" rather than "F", therefore the second may actually be 3.AR.6.E.B. which I would think is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 3, Ersatz Batallion 6. This is just a WAG but would seem to give some consistency between markings. I am out of my league on marking so I may be all wet.
Beautiful weapon by the way. A real prize.

Rbrooks45 · 05-30-2011, 07:38 AM

Thanks guys, I had thought it was an artillery unit but the 6 EB on the but plate through me. I had spoken to a friend who said that The Bavarians were the first German units to use brass ammo. He had also said that only a couple thousand were bought for the military.

klaus 3338 · 05-30-2011, 03:38 PM

I think it is 6. Ersatz Batterie.
Field Artillery regiments had normally 2 Abteilungen (about detachments) with 4 Batterien..........
Sorry for my poor English.

05-29-2011, 02:10 PM	#1
Rbrooks45 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Model 1869 Werder Just picked up a model 1869 Werder today and was wondering if anyone could help me with the unit ID. As you can see on the photo it is marked 3.A.6.2 and on the but plate 3 AR. 6 FB. any help would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

05-29-2011, 11:19 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Just for consideration, it seems that it may be a battallion staff weapon since it would be a bit of a jump from regiment all the way down to a battery weapon. So perhaps the first marking is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 3, Batallion 6, Waffe 2. I agree that the second marking probably has an "E" rather than "F", therefore the second may actually be 3.AR.6.E.B. which I would think is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 3, Ersatz Batallion 6. This is just a WAG but would seem to give some consistency between markings. I am out of my league on marking so I may be all wet. Beautiful weapon by the way. A real prize. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-29-2011, 06:19 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	First marking I would think is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 3, Batterie 6, Waffe 2. The second may actually be 3.AR.6.E.B. which I would think is (Bavarian) Feld-artillerie-Regiment 6, Ersatz Batallion.

05-30-2011, 07:38 AM	#4
Rbrooks45 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks guys, I had thought it was an artillery unit but the 6 EB on the but plate through me. I had spoken to a friend who said that The Bavarians were the first German units to use brass ammo. He had also said that only a couple thousand were bought for the military.

05-30-2011, 03:38 PM	#5
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 513 Thanks: 0 Thanked 394 Times in 156 Posts	I think it is 6. Ersatz Batterie. Field Artillery regiments had normally 2 Abteilungen (about detachments) with 4 Batterien.......... Sorry for my poor English.