Another Movie Luger...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-25-2003, 09:00 PM

We had fun with some other movie Lugers, so I found another. As you can see, it is a real closeup shot for the Luger. Can you guess the movie? Take notice of the strange looking piece below the barrel, and in front of the take down lever. It is attached to the gun. Possibly added to make the scene work...

Roadkill · 06-25-2003, 09:18 PM

Picture is a little too vague, can you provide some more detail? Or is it just me again?

rk

ViggoG · 06-26-2003, 03:22 AM

I dunno R K, I nevr seen wun Oh dose lil sqar thing wid lil read exis innum any wer ona "LUGR".
Whaddu Uins mak uf ittn ????

ViggoG <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/dsc00011c.jpg

John Sabato · 06-26-2003, 11:09 AM

Johnny Please repost the photo as your URL link is no good.

Thanks,

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-26-2003, 08:32 PM

Wonder what happened to it??? I checked later and it was still there...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-26-2003, 08:40 PM

Lets try it again...

Herb · 06-26-2003, 08:49 PM

Looks like a genuine Luger thingamajig to me, wonder where they got it?

Lugerdoc · 06-27-2003, 08:03 AM

It certainly isn't a forearm extention. The only other thing that makes sense in this location would be a laser aiming device, which could only be a fairly recent addition. TH

unspellable · 06-27-2003, 10:28 AM

Some sort of doohicky to cycle the action with blanks????

ViggoG · 06-27-2003, 03:41 PM

The frame just seems to not be a true Luger Frame.
The front of the Trigger guard seems to be from some other weapon.
Even the trigger seems different, some kind of an extension forward into the dummied up Takedown Latch region.
Just aint right!!!!!
ViggoG

Roadkill · 06-27-2003, 04:10 PM

The barrel and outline looks like a Ruger target model.

rk

unspellable · 06-27-2003, 05:29 PM

Could it be built from the ground up as a movie prop that fires blanks???

Ron Wood · 06-27-2003, 05:46 PM

Unspellable,
Except for the odd shape of the frame forward of the trigger guard, I thought it might be something in the background behind the Luger, like a belt buckle, with the camera angle making it appear to be part of the Luger. Since the frame is odd shaped, I vote for doohicky/blank firing thingamajig.

Herb · 06-27-2003, 08:04 PM

To make it fire blanks all they would have to do is to plug enough of the barrel so that the proper pressure is attained to cycle the action. It's too small for a laser pointer, and that would have no use in a blank firing gun. Note that the person holding it appears to be pushing the toggle down, must have sticky ammo. We need a smaller pic with more detail, but that forward frame sure appears to be altered for some reason. The trigger looks ok to me, he has it pulled to the rear and the forward curl is showing altho it appears a little thick, might be the camera angle.

Ron Wood · 06-27-2003, 08:21 PM

Actually, I think he is pushing the toggle back, which is what you would do to chamber a round from a fresh magazine after the toggle had locked back from the previous empty magazine

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-27-2003, 09:54 PM

The little piece in question is attached to the frame. I looked at all of the frames of the scene. In one frame the three proof marks on the receiver show a little better. Yes, the gun jammed and the actor is struggling with it. In the last two frames of the scene, it almost appears as if the toggle breaks, but I'm not sure. The little piece almost appears to be holding the gun open. No guesses as to the movie title???

Herb · 06-27-2003, 11:46 PM

Steve McQueen in the great escape????

Lugerdoc · 06-28-2003, 07:21 AM

After closer inspection, I go along with Ron Wood's belt buckel theory. TH

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-29-2003, 12:48 AM

Trust me it is part of the gun. There is a part also just below the barrel that appears to be part of this thing. The movie is "The Blues Brothers", and it is Henry Gibson, described as the head nazi, holding the luger. After firing it, it jams and he is struggling with it...

ViggoG · 06-29-2003, 10:12 PM

Here I go again, Could it be that it is a parts gun of which the frame is an old carbine part?

It seems to resemble the frame of one of these carbines.
ViggoG

06-25-2003, 09:00 PM	#1
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Another Movie Luger... We had fun with some other movie Lugers, so I found another. As you can see, it is a real closeup shot for the Luger. Can you guess the movie? Take notice of the strange looking piece below the barrel, and in front of the take down lever. It is attached to the gun. Possibly added to make the scene work... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-26-2003, 11:09 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Johnny Please repost the photo as your URL link is no good. Thanks, __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-26-2003, 08:32 PM	#5
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Wonder what happened to it??? I checked later and it was still there... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-26-2003, 08:40 PM	#6
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Lets try it again... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-26-2003, 08:49 PM	#7
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Looks like a genuine Luger thingamajig to me, wonder where they got it? __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

06-25-2003, 09:18 PM	#2
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Picture is a little too vague, can you provide some more detail? Or is it just me again? rk

06-26-2003, 03:22 AM	#3
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I dunno R K, I nevr seen wun Oh dose lil sqar thing wid lil read exis innum any wer ona "LUGR". Whaddu Uins mak uf ittn ???? ViggoG <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/dsc00011c.jpg

06-27-2003, 08:03 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	It certainly isn't a forearm extention. The only other thing that makes sense in this location would be a laser aiming device, which could only be a fairly recent addition. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-27-2003, 10:28 AM	#9
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Some sort of doohicky to cycle the action with blanks????

06-27-2003, 03:41 PM	#10
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The frame just seems to not be a true Luger Frame. The front of the Trigger guard seems to be from some other weapon. Even the trigger seems different, some kind of an extension forward into the dummied up Takedown Latch region. Just aint right!!!!! ViggoG

06-27-2003, 04:10 PM	#11
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	The barrel and outline looks like a Ruger target model. rk

06-27-2003, 05:29 PM	#12
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Could it be built from the ground up as a movie prop that fires blanks???

06-27-2003, 05:46 PM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,164 Times in 1,700 Posts	Unspellable, Except for the odd shape of the frame forward of the trigger guard, I thought it might be something in the background behind the Luger, like a belt buckle, with the camera angle making it appear to be part of the Luger. Since the frame is odd shaped, I vote for doohicky/blank firing thingamajig. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-27-2003, 08:04 PM	#14
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	To make it fire blanks all they would have to do is to plug enough of the barrel so that the proper pressure is attained to cycle the action. It's too small for a laser pointer, and that would have no use in a blank firing gun. Note that the person holding it appears to be pushing the toggle down, must have sticky ammo. We need a smaller pic with more detail, but that forward frame sure appears to be altered for some reason. The trigger looks ok to me, he has it pulled to the rear and the forward curl is showing altho it appears a little thick, might be the camera angle. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

06-27-2003, 08:21 PM	#15
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,164 Times in 1,700 Posts	Actually, I think he is pushing the toggle back, which is what you would do to chamber a round from a fresh magazine after the toggle had locked back from the previous empty magazine __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-27-2003, 09:54 PM	#16
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	The little piece in question is attached to the frame. I looked at all of the frames of the scene. In one frame the three proof marks on the receiver show a little better. Yes, the gun jammed and the actor is struggling with it. In the last two frames of the scene, it almost appears as if the toggle breaks, but I'm not sure. The little piece almost appears to be holding the gun open. No guesses as to the movie title??? __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-27-2003, 11:46 PM	#17
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Steve McQueen in the great escape???? __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

06-28-2003, 07:21 AM	#18
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	After closer inspection, I go along with Ron Wood's belt buckel theory. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-29-2003, 12:48 AM	#19
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Trust me it is part of the gun. There is a part also just below the barrel that appears to be part of this thing. The movie is "The Blues Brothers", and it is Henry Gibson, described as the head nazi, holding the luger. After firing it, it jams and he is struggling with it... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-29-2003, 10:12 PM	#20
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Here I go again, Could it be that it is a parts gun of which the frame is an old carbine part? It seems to resemble the frame of one of these carbines. ViggoG