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SteveM · 01-01-2014, 11:22 AM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384266936

hansfischer007 · 01-01-2014, 11:27 AM

Ethiopean Chamber of Commerce..????......man I gonna jump right on that...

Ben M. · 01-01-2014, 11:59 AM

located in new jersey?

sheepherder · 01-01-2014, 02:24 PM

Ethiopians in Pennsauken; does Haile Selassie know about this???

One of my handguns came from the Cross Roads Gun Shop; I don't know if they're still in business...I know I used to see the Pennsauken exit sign on my travels to Philly or Carlisle/Gettsyberg, but never visited...

DavidJayUden · 01-01-2014, 02:30 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384618787

Here is another one for your discussion.
dju

sheepherder · 01-01-2014, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384618787

Here is another one for your discussion.
dju

I guess the blank chamber Lugers are getting harder to find...So put the cartoon on the side...Wouldn't want to scrub the date off...

John Sabato · 01-02-2014, 09:36 AM

ECCSA was an importer that was located in Pennshauken, New Jersey. I don't think they are still in business.

BTW, FWIW, I lived in Ethiopia for a year a few decades back... and I didn't see a single Luger while I was there...

sheepherder · 01-02-2014, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

ECCSA was an importer that was located in Pennshauken, New Jersey. I don't think they are still in business.

...???...And you wonder why I delete my posts???

Zorba · 01-02-2014, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384618787

Here is another one for your discussion.
dju

Picture #4 is quite interesting...

DavidJayUden · 01-02-2014, 11:37 AM

Photo #4. Beretta?

alanint · 01-02-2014, 11:44 AM

Yes.

Except for the spurious Death's Head, it looks like a fairly nice 1940/42.

Way to ruin a nice collectable.

John Sabato · 01-02-2014, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

...???...And you wonder why I delete my posts???

No Rich I don't wonder... since repetition is the way many folks learn.

In this case the decongestants I am taking so I can breathe have made me a little loopey... my reading retention is a very short time span at the moment.

No deletion is required when you are my age anyway... you just forget you read or did something...

Maestro · 01-02-2014, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384618787

Here is another one for your discussion.
dju

Are there any original ones?

Ron Wood · 01-02-2014, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro

Are there any original ones?

No

Zorba · 01-02-2014, 10:38 PM

Ya know, my piece is a '40 42 - where's MY death's head?

sheepherder · 01-02-2014, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro

Are there any original ones?

Of course.

Do a Search here for 'death's head' and 'totenkopf', that should bring up several long threads and a banned member or two...

Deaths Head Lugers, Russian Contract Lugers, and Spandau Lugers are all real...And thought provoking...

DavidJayUden · 01-02-2014, 11:13 PM

Ron and all:
Look at the 3 acceptance marks and the 1 TK on the right side of the receiver. All the Eagle 655's and bird look extremely fresh, straight, even, etc. Unusually perfect, even finish with bluing in each line, each line at an even depth. etc.
Assumng that this is post-war skulduggery, how do you think that was done? Was this whole thing welded up and restamped with bogus (sharp) stamps, reblued, etc?
I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot, but I'm trying to learn not only to spot a fraud, but to understand the processes used to manufacture it.
Thanks for indulging me...
dju

Sergio Natali · 01-03-2014, 08:51 AM

I'm not that much of an expert but to me those marks look far too good to be true!

sheepherder · 01-03-2014, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Assumng that this is post-war skulduggery...

...Ouch...

pitsword · 01-03-2014, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Photo #4. Beretta?

Rooks ryke modyfyd p 38.5. Never really caught on after it was caught. Jus sayin and welcome Brothers to 2014.. Glad to be above ground and glad to be here.

01-01-2014, 11:22 AM	#1
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Morning Entertainment http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384266936

01-01-2014, 11:27 AM	#2
hansfischer007 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sunny Tennessee Posts: 233 Thanks: 509 Thanked 96 Times in 48 Posts	Wha..??? Ethiopean Chamber of Commerce..????......man I gonna jump right on that...

01-02-2014, 09:36 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	ECCSA was an importer that was located in Pennshauken, New Jersey. I don't think they are still in business. BTW, FWIW, I lived in Ethiopia for a year a few decades back... and I didn't see a single Luger while I was there... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-02-2014, 11:44 AM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Yes. Except for the spurious Death's Head, it looks like a fairly nice 1940/42. Way to ruin a nice collectable. Last edited by alanint; 01-02-2014 at 12:59 PM.

01-03-2014, 08:51 AM	#18
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I'm not that much of an expert but to me those marks look far too good to be true! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

01-01-2014, 11:59 AM	#3
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 486 Thanks: 86 Thanked 121 Times in 81 Posts	located in new jersey?

01-01-2014, 02:24 PM	#4
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Ethiopians in Pennsauken; does Haile Selassie know about this??? One of my handguns came from the Cross Roads Gun Shop; I don't know if they're still in business...I know I used to see the Pennsauken exit sign on my travels to Philly or Carlisle/Gettsyberg, but never visited... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-01-2014, 02:30 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=384618787 Here is another one for your discussion. dju

01-02-2014, 11:37 AM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Photo #4. Beretta?

01-02-2014, 10:38 PM	#15
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	Ya know, my piece is a '40 42 - where's MY death's head?

01-02-2014, 11:13 PM	#17
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Ron and all: Look at the 3 acceptance marks and the 1 TK on the right side of the receiver. All the Eagle 655's and bird look extremely fresh, straight, even, etc. Unusually perfect, even finish with bluing in each line, each line at an even depth. etc. Assumng that this is post-war skulduggery, how do you think that was done? Was this whole thing welded up and restamped with bogus (sharp) stamps, reblued, etc? I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot, but I'm trying to learn not only to spot a fraud, but to understand the processes used to manufacture it. Thanks for indulging me... dju