I Can't Figure This One Out

Ron Wood · 03-06-2007, 07:37 PM

A friend has come across a 1915 DWM with grip strap markings of R.B.D.Mg.210 - no unit numbers, only the weapon number. No sear or mag safety, so it isn't a police rework. Could it be an Ersatz unit of some sort? The lower case "g" also has me puzzled...I usually associate a Mg. marking with Magdeburg.

Edward Tinker · 03-06-2007, 07:55 PM

Ron,

I am unsure, but I do have two police / unit marked lugers, that never had a sear or mag safety...

Ed

Ron Smith · 03-06-2007, 08:00 PM

Ron,

Reichsbahn police Directorate(?) Magdeburg. George Wheeler 'Schupo' told me at one time what the D probably represented, but I have forgotten.

Simpson's has the mate to it.

Ron

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...oducts_id=1148

Ron Wood · 03-06-2007, 09:14 PM

Good show Ron! I figured you would chime in with the answer.

Navy · 03-06-2007, 09:30 PM

Apparently Madgeburg was a hub for the Reichsbahn as I have owned 3 Lugers and several Mausers that had the Magdeburg mark on them.

Tom A.

Don M · 03-06-2007, 11:15 PM

The best interpretation I have heard is that it is from the Reichsbahn Direktion at Magdeburg. Tom is correct about Magdeburg being a rail hub. Do you know the serial number of the gun? Is it still in its original 9 mm or has it been rebarreled as a .30 cal.?

Ron Wood · 03-07-2007, 04:51 PM

Don,
According to my friend, it is 9mm. I have asked him to try to obtain the serial number. I will let you know if he comes through.

03-06-2007, 07:37 PM	#1
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	I Can't Figure This One Out A friend has come across a 1915 DWM with grip strap markings of R.B.D.Mg.210 - no unit numbers, only the weapon number. No sear or mag safety, so it isn't a police rework. Could it be an Ersatz unit of some sort? The lower case "g" also has me puzzled...I usually associate a Mg. marking with Magdeburg. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-06-2007, 08:00 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ron, Reichsbahn police Directorate(?) Magdeburg. George Wheeler 'Schupo' told me at one time what the D probably represented, but I have forgotten. Simpson's has the mate to it. Ron http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...oducts_id=1148 __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-06-2007, 09:14 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Good show Ron! I figured you would chime in with the answer. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-06-2007, 11:15 PM	#6
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	The best interpretation I have heard is that it is from the Reichsbahn Direktion at Magdeburg. Tom is correct about Magdeburg being a rail hub. Do you know the serial number of the gun? Is it still in its original 9 mm or has it been rebarreled as a .30 cal.? __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

03-07-2007, 04:51 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Don, According to my friend, it is 9mm. I have asked him to try to obtain the serial number. I will let you know if he comes through. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-06-2007, 07:55 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Ron, I am unsure, but I do have two police / unit marked lugers, that never had a sear or mag safety... Ed

03-06-2007, 09:30 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Apparently Madgeburg was a hub for the Reichsbahn as I have owned 3 Lugers and several Mausers that had the Magdeburg mark on them. Tom A.