What is This?

last gunfighter · 09-28-2007, 09:58 AM

I recently inherited a DWM luger and I was wondering if someone could tell me what the markings on the inside of the grip frame are.
It is marked 119.R.M.G.49. Any help you could give would be appreciated.

Edward Tinker · 09-28-2007, 10:10 AM

Michael, welcome to the forum. This appears to be a WW1 marking and will let others look it up (I am at work).

It also helps to know what era / type of luger this marking comes from.

Obviously it must be marked DWM.

Are there any date stamps on it?

Is the R letter like the rest, or is it stylized kinda like this R?

Approximate serial number to include suffix on the front of the frame?

Ed

last gunfighter · 09-28-2007, 10:14 AM

Chamber area is not dated. Small parts are not numbered, which i think means it was a commercial folded into the military. serial number 7799A.

last gunfighter · 09-28-2007, 10:15 AM

R letter is same script as others, not italicized.

Ron Smith · 09-28-2007, 10:48 AM

Hi Michael,

119th Infantry Regiment Machine Gun Company weapon #49. Early in WWI most Regiments had only one machine gun company. Later on they had 3 or 4 MG companies per Regt. Yours is an early marked to the first and only MG company.

Does your Luger have a stock lug on the heel of the grip? It's possibly a 1908 1st Issue without a chamber date, not a commercial.

Ron

last gunfighter · 09-28-2007, 11:11 AM

Thanks for the help, It does not have a stock lug.

Ron Wood · 09-28-2007, 11:13 AM

The small parts are probably numbered on the bottom commercial style. The "a" suffix indicates that it is a military and not a commercial so Ron's observation that it is a 1908 First Issue is most likely.

TzDreamer · 09-28-2007, 08:35 PM

Gunfighter,

How about some pictures!
I have a no suffix 08 Numbers are in different locations from latter versions.

09-28-2007, 09:58 AM	#1
last gunfighter User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is This? I recently inherited a DWM luger and I was wondering if someone could tell me what the markings on the inside of the grip frame are. It is marked 119.R.M.G.49. Any help you could give would be appreciated.

09-28-2007, 10:10 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Michael, welcome to the forum. This appears to be a WW1 marking and will let others look it up (I am at work). It also helps to know what era / type of luger this marking comes from. Obviously it must be marked DWM. Are there any date stamps on it? Is the R letter like the rest, or is it stylized kinda like this R? Approximate serial number to include suffix on the front of the frame? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-28-2007, 10:48 AM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Michael, 119th Infantry Regiment Machine Gun Company weapon #49. Early in WWI most Regiments had only one machine gun company. Later on they had 3 or 4 MG companies per Regt. Yours is an early marked to the first and only MG company. Does your Luger have a stock lug on the heel of the grip? It's possibly a 1908 1st Issue without a chamber date, not a commercial. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-28-2007, 11:13 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	The small parts are probably numbered on the bottom commercial style. The "a" suffix indicates that it is a military and not a commercial so Ron's observation that it is a 1908 First Issue is most likely. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-28-2007, 10:14 AM	#3
last gunfighter User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chamber area is not dated. Small parts are not numbered, which i think means it was a commercial folded into the military. serial number 7799A.

09-28-2007, 10:15 AM	#4
last gunfighter User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	R letter is same script as others, not italicized.

09-28-2007, 11:11 AM	#6
last gunfighter User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the help, It does not have a stock lug.

09-28-2007, 08:35 PM	#8
TzDreamer User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wichita Falls Texas USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gunfighter, How about some pictures! I have a no suffix 08 Numbers are in different locations from latter versions.