Interesting topics - Eric Part 3

cirelaw · 06-29-2016, 09:28 AM

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-c...unFacts%29.pdf

cirelaw · 06-29-2016, 10:39 AM

Colt 1911~https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...k-at-the-1911/

cirelaw · 06-29-2016, 10:48 AM

1911 Development~~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgOicEVA4u8

Vlim · 06-29-2016, 11:51 AM

Eric, thanks for the link to the article.

I have it in my archives somewhere, including a German language translation of it for Mauser

But what I really like is the photo of the old drop forge at Mauser, as I recently acquired an original die from one of those forges. The photo shows how the die was mounted in the forge.

cirelaw · 06-29-2016, 12:18 PM

Tks, Its like a fine bottle of vine! It ages with time!! Can you please explain the significance of the 'drop forge' as its all new to me and I'm sure most! This photograph dispels the suggestion that the stock lug was retained for the construction and dipping process!

cirelaw · 06-29-2016, 01:11 PM

A quote from Fred Datig in the Luger Pistol, Second Edition, page 305,,"Some very interesting technical data concerning the production of Luger Pistols was brought to light by Herr August Weiss, former luger production head at Mauser/Oberndorf. For instance, the number of machine operations necessary in producing a Military Luger of normal specifications was (in 1939) 642. Each group of 642 operations averaged an elapsed time consumption of 78 minutes. Of hand operations for a givin pistol, the total was 136 which required an elapsed time of one hour and 12 minutes. Consequently, it required a total elapsed time of two and a half hours in which to perform the 778 combined machine and hand operations necessary to produce the finished product. Page 305~

Olle · 06-29-2016, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Consequently, it required a total elapsed time of two and a half hours in which to perform the 778 combined machine and hand operations necessary to produce the finished product. Page 305~

Dang, I wish I could do that!

cirelaw · 06-29-2016, 08:07 PM

I don't believe that included the individual inspectors after each step!!! AWESOME!

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 09:30 AM

My Other Favorite Luger Blast From The Past~http://www.gundigest.com/gun-digest-...thelugerpistol

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 09:36 AM

For My Old Friend With Some Of His Most Beautiful Lugers Pictured~~~http://rockislandauction.blogspot.co...of-lugers.html

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 11:56 AM

My Lugers From Ralphs' Collection~ 1920 Luger Carbine, 1908 Navy, 1900 U.S. Test Luger, 1906 French Contract, 1937 Kreighoff, 1902 Fat Barrel Luger~

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 06:47 PM

D~Day In Color~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhsYY7SY55Q

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 06:58 PM

Life Magazine WW2~http://time.com/3638649/world-war-ii...s-we-remember/

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:08 PM

Bob Hope On Pinterest~https://www.pinterest.com/bobcalsurf...&eq=bob%20hope

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:18 PM

On Stage In Korea~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDA0084gZWc

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:33 PM

I Had to!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaD1G1saJ_0

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:39 PM

George Pattons' Website~~http://www.generalpatton.com/gallery/index.html

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:46 PM

War Dogs~http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...paterniti-text

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:54 PM

Dogs Of WW1~http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/w...-revealed.html

cirelaw · 06-30-2016, 07:59 PM

As Essential As Ammo!http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES.../krations.html

06-29-2016, 09:28 AM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Interesting topics - Eric Part 3 http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-c...unFacts%29.pdf Attached Thumbnails

06-29-2016, 10:39 AM	#2
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Colt 1911~https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...k-at-the-1911/ Attached Thumbnails

06-29-2016, 10:48 AM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	1911 Development~~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgOicEVA4u8 Attached Thumbnails

06-29-2016, 12:18 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Tks, Its like a fine bottle of vine! It ages with time!! Can you please explain the significance of the 'drop forge' as its all new to me and I'm sure most! This photograph dispels the suggestion that the stock lug was retained for the construction and dipping process! Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 09:30 AM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	My Other Favorite Luger Blast From The Past~http://www.gundigest.com/gun-digest-...thelugerpistol Attached Thumbnails

06-29-2016, 11:51 AM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Eric, thanks for the link to the article. I have it in my archives somewhere, including a German language translation of it for Mauser But what I really like is the photo of the old drop forge at Mauser, as I recently acquired an original die from one of those forges. The photo shows how the die was mounted in the forge.

06-29-2016, 01:11 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A quote from Fred Datig in the Luger Pistol, Second Edition, page 305,,"Some very interesting technical data concerning the production of Luger Pistols was brought to light by Herr August Weiss, former luger production head at Mauser/Oberndorf. For instance, the number of machine operations necessary in producing a Military Luger of normal specifications was (in 1939) 642. Each group of 642 operations averaged an elapsed time consumption of 78 minutes. Of hand operations for a givin pistol, the total was 136 which required an elapsed time of one hour and 12 minutes. Consequently, it required a total elapsed time of two and a half hours in which to perform the 778 combined machine and hand operations necessary to produce the finished product. Page 305~

06-29-2016, 08:07 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I don't believe that included the individual inspectors after each step!!! AWESOME!

06-30-2016, 09:36 AM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	For My Old Friend With Some Of His Most Beautiful Lugers Pictured~~~http://rockislandauction.blogspot.co...of-lugers.html Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 11:56 AM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	My Lugers From Ralphs' Collection~ 1920 Luger Carbine, 1908 Navy, 1900 U.S. Test Luger, 1906 French Contract, 1937 Kreighoff, 1902 Fat Barrel Luger~ Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 06:47 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	D~Day In Color~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhsYY7SY55Q Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 06:58 PM	#13
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Life Magazine WW2~http://time.com/3638649/world-war-ii...s-we-remember/ Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:08 PM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Bob Hope On Pinterest~https://www.pinterest.com/bobcalsurf...&eq=bob%20hope Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:18 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	On Stage In Korea~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDA0084gZWc Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:33 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I Had to!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaD1G1saJ_0 Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:39 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	George Pattons' Website~~http://www.generalpatton.com/gallery/index.html Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:46 PM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	War Dogs~http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...paterniti-text Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:54 PM	#19
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Dogs Of WW1~http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/w...-revealed.html Attached Thumbnails

06-30-2016, 07:59 PM	#20
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	As Essential As Ammo!http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES.../krations.html Attached Thumbnails