Simson for sale

Sergio Natali · 06-03-2020, 11:50 AM

From the pictures found on the Net, to me this SIMSON for sale at the price of € 2,200.00 looks refinished.
I'd be interested to know the opinion of some other Luger enthusiasts.

Edward Tinker · 06-03-2020, 12:10 PM

This serial number was first reported in auto mag in 1992 - I had no other information on it

It may have been refinished, but I have found that the toggles and the acceptance markings are sometimes light on Simsons (hard receivers / toggles).
That said, the upper looks a bit off to me also - not consistent wear with the front gripstrap....

Is the stock lug stamped? ( i now see american fakers stamping the stock lugs), but its a good indication that the frame was twice checked at the factory.

Ed

DonVoigt · 06-03-2020, 03:55 PM

Refinished over extensive but fine pitting; visible in every picture.

hayhugh · 06-04-2020, 07:43 AM

Looks like they used S/W gloss black......

Sergio Natali · 06-12-2020, 01:20 PM

This afternoon I went to have a hands on inspection at that SIMSON.
In practice to me it looked completely different from the photos; I mean the bluish colour of the pictures is completely wrong and in all honesty I couldn't see the expected evidence of pitting under the finish, nevertheless I'm not convinced about it.
Photographs are not always a good indicator of what the actual finish looks like BUT in some cases they can emphasize small details like, for instance the fact that in this case the toggle axle pin looks blued.

06-03-2020, 11:50 AM	#1
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Simson for sale From the pictures found on the Net, to me this SIMSON for sale at the price of € 2,200.00 looks refinished. I'd be interested to know the opinion of some other Luger enthusiasts. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

06-03-2020, 03:55 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Refinished over extensive but fine pitting; visible in every picture. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

06-12-2020, 01:20 PM	#5
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	This afternoon I went to have a hands on inspection at that SIMSON. In practice to me it looked completely different from the photos; I mean the bluish colour of the pictures is completely wrong and in all honesty I couldn't see the expected evidence of pitting under the finish, nevertheless I'm not convinced about it. Photographs are not always a good indicator of what the actual finish looks like BUT in some cases they can emphasize small details like, for instance the fact that in this case the toggle axle pin looks blued. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list. Last edited by Sergio Natali; 06-13-2020 at 02:36 AM.

06-03-2020, 12:10 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	This serial number was first reported in auto mag in 1992 - I had no other information on it It may have been refinished, but I have found that the toggles and the acceptance markings are sometimes light on Simsons (hard receivers / toggles). That said, the upper looks a bit off to me also - not consistent wear with the front gripstrap.... Is the stock lug stamped? ( i now see american fakers stamping the stock lugs), but its a good indication that the frame was twice checked at the factory. Ed

06-04-2020, 07:43 AM	#4
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 882 Thanks: 848 Thanked 507 Times in 270 Posts	Looks like they used S/W gloss black......