WW2 German Luger P.08 1939 Nazi Army P08 WWII

briskspirit · 07-18-2020, 12:20 PM

Hi all!

Was watching GunBroker and found one very beat up p08 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873301307

It was sold for $1481
My question is why?? Am I missing something that could value this gun that high?...

Thanks for your opinions!

rhinemann · 07-18-2020, 12:34 PM

I don't understand why either. It looked like a rust bucket that was poorly re blued and way over the top buffed. 23 bids? Crazy bidders.

Edward Tinker · 07-18-2020, 01:04 PM

couple people got their backs up - its about $500 too much IMHO

briskspirit · 07-18-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

couple people got their backs up - its about $500 too much IMHO

More like $1k too much imho...

Trying to buy P08 and see this behavior all over GunBroker. Luger got hyped? )

And I thought that paid too much for my 1906 ))))

briskspirit · 07-18-2020, 01:12 PM

Poor Luger... What they have done to you...

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Norme · 07-18-2020, 01:29 PM

Anything Nazi is hot these days.
Norm

briskspirit · 07-18-2020, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme

Anything Nazi is hot these days.
Norm

I think you might be right. Little Nazi eagle added some value.

pmanton · 07-19-2020, 10:41 AM

It appears to be missing the hold open

Doubs · 07-19-2020, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pmanton

It appears to be missing the hold open

It most certainly is.

It sold for three times what I'd pay for it.

To the seller's credit, they didn't try to hide anything. The buyer could see exactly what they're getting and shouldn't complain later.

DonVoigt · 07-19-2020, 12:39 PM

5 different guys bid past $1000.
There is just no explanation for auction prices- other than perhaps "auction fever" or stupidity.
JMHO.

Karl · 07-19-2020, 01:13 PM

Due to the Coronavirus there may be a lot of bored people on Gunbroker.

mrerick · 07-19-2020, 07:03 PM

I assist occasionally with my neighborhood gun shop. Sales are absolutely through the roof right now.

But... I have a shooter grade P.38 (nice all original Walther manufacture AC42) on consignment offer there right now, and no inquiries in a couple of weeks... So... go figure?

Kiwi · 07-19-2020, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

I assist occasionally with my neighborhood gun shop. Sales are absolutely through the roof right now.

But... I have a shooter grade P.38 (nice all original Walther manufacture AC42) on consignment offer there right now, and no inquiries in a couple of weeks... So... go figure?

All it needs is a photo showing Rudel or Galland holding one and it will be gone

K.Wilhelm · 07-20-2020, 10:17 AM

Maybe it was Nazi number 2 or 3's private pistol.

4 Scale · 07-22-2020, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl

Due to the Coronavirus there may be a lot of bored people on Gunbroker.

This is my guess. I buy and sell higher end camera stuff on Ebay and I have been surprised by the selling prices over the last three months. My guess is people are spending more time shopping on line for all kinds of expensive stuff.

briskspirit · 07-23-2020, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

All it needs is a photo showing Rudel or Galland holding one and it will be gone

Yep, something like this: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/874706828

Heinz · 07-23-2020, 11:54 AM

I was re-reading some of the posts on Deaths Head Lugers and the incredible enthusiasm for things SS is beyond my understanding.

raymope · 08-11-2020, 08:14 PM

Obvious this is a 1939 - 42 code P.08 Military Luger
What doesn't add up are the markings. I have the Luger Handbook by Aarron Davis and according to his flow chart I have either a DWM Mauser Military (pretty sure it's not) with the correct proof marks but no DWM Mfg logo on the toggle or a Mauser 42 Code, Four Digit Date with the wrong proof marks. But, there is also a mark on the front of the frame that matches a mark on the magazine that I can't find anywhere else in the book or the internet. Looks like a capital A (italicized). Thoughts?

Lyn Islaub · 08-11-2020, 09:53 PM

You've kind of hijacked an on going post on another subject with your question and should probably have started a fresh one to get your answers. What you have is a fairly common, but in very nice condition, 1939 Code 42 Mauser pistol. You might consider using a different reference tool than Aaron Davis. Too many errors and bad assumptions in his work. Jan Still's "Third Reich Lugers" or Don Hallock/Joop van de Kant's "The Mauser Parabellum" would be better choices for research of Mauser Lugers. The markings on your Mauser are correct and have nothing to do with DWM, which was a war time manufacturer in WW1. There is a wealth of information on this Forum that would answer most of your questions, so do a little searching and you will see what I mean.
Lyn

tharpo · 08-11-2020, 11:17 PM

That is the letter Q on the front of the frame and on the magazine. So the serial number of your Luger is 9456q.

07-18-2020, 12:20 PM	#1
briskspirit User Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 58 Thanks: 80 Thanked 28 Times in 12 Posts	WW2 German Luger P.08 1939 Nazi Army P08 WWII Hi all! Was watching GunBroker and found one very beat up p08 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873301307 It was sold for $1481 My question is why?? Am I missing something that could value this gun that high?... Thanks for your opinions!

07-19-2020, 12:39 PM	#10
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	5 different guys bid past $1000. There is just no explanation for auction prices- other than perhaps "auction fever" or stupidity. JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-19-2020, 07:03 PM	#12
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	I assist occasionally with my neighborhood gun shop. Sales are absolutely through the roof right now. But... I have a shooter grade P.38 (nice all original Walther manufacture AC42) on consignment offer there right now, and no inquiries in a couple of weeks... So... go figure? __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-20-2020, 10:17 AM	#14
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Maybe it was Nazi number 2 or 3's private pistol. __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

08-11-2020, 08:14 PM	#18
raymope New User Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Unidentified markings Obvious this is a 1939 - 42 code P.08 Military Luger What doesn't add up are the markings. I have the Luger Handbook by Aarron Davis and according to his flow chart I have either a DWM Mauser Military (pretty sure it's not) with the correct proof marks but no DWM Mfg logo on the toggle or a Mauser 42 Code, Four Digit Date with the wrong proof marks. But, there is also a mark on the front of the frame that matches a mark on the magazine that I can't find anywhere else in the book or the internet. Looks like a capital A (italicized). Thoughts? Attached Thumbnails

07-18-2020, 12:34 PM	#2
rhinemann User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Calif. Posts: 66 Thanks: 14 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts	I don't understand why either. It looked like a rust bucket that was poorly re blued and way over the top buffed. 23 bids? Crazy bidders.

07-18-2020, 01:04 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	couple people got their backs up - its about $500 too much IMHO

07-18-2020, 01:12 PM	#5
briskspirit User Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 58 Thanks: 80 Thanked 28 Times in 12 Posts	Poor Luger... What they have done to you...

07-18-2020, 01:29 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Anything Nazi is hot these days. Norm

07-19-2020, 10:41 AM	#8
pmanton Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Indian Hills Airpark Salome, AZ Posts: 24 Thanks: 61 Thanked 33 Times in 11 Posts	It appears to be missing the hold open

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Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 239 Times in 111 Posts	Due to the Coronavirus there may be a lot of bored people on Gunbroker.

07-23-2020, 11:54 AM	#17
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	I was re-reading some of the posts on Deaths Head Lugers and the incredible enthusiasm for things SS is beyond my understanding.

08-11-2020, 09:53 PM	#19
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	You've kind of hijacked an on going post on another subject with your question and should probably have started a fresh one to get your answers. What you have is a fairly common, but in very nice condition, 1939 Code 42 Mauser pistol. You might consider using a different reference tool than Aaron Davis. Too many errors and bad assumptions in his work. Jan Still's "Third Reich Lugers" or Don Hallock/Joop van de Kant's "The Mauser Parabellum" would be better choices for research of Mauser Lugers. The markings on your Mauser are correct and have nothing to do with DWM, which was a war time manufacturer in WW1. There is a wealth of information on this Forum that would answer most of your questions, so do a little searching and you will see what I mean. Lyn

08-11-2020, 11:17 PM	#20
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 536 Thanks: 116 Thanked 375 Times in 153 Posts	That is the letter Q on the front of the frame and on the magazine. So the serial number of your Luger is 9456q.