Chapter II New Guy...

Knappolean · 06-05-2010, 05:24 PM

My 7803 seems to be a "Shooter" having had a makeover in its past. Any way to correct the indescretion or are we commited to crossing the "River Styx".
I'll post a couple of bore photos for critique if you don't mind to
discuss its condition. Bye the way I have appreciated all the responses. Very Interesting! I seem to have a 100 year old piece of history that I will cherish for a long time.

alvin · 06-05-2010, 06:45 PM

The first time I saw a Luger in movie... it's an European movie "Teheran 1943", an Allied agent (Russian?) holding a Luger (or Nambu? unlikely) killed a few Nazi spies. Too long ago, cannot remember clearly. Only remember a bunch people running and shooting each other with Lugers.

FNorm · 06-05-2010, 06:56 PM

RE bore: I've seen worse that shoot pretty well. Clean and brush it from the breech with your favorite cleaner. Then do as if you're breaking in a new barrel. Shoot one, swab, shoot one, swab. After 7-8 shots run the brush again, and then a patch. Repeat. Then standard cleaning when you get done.

FN

John Sabato · 06-05-2010, 10:45 PM

The bore is in reasonably good shape for its age and the fact that it has been used and not a safe queen... I would bet it would shoot great.

Ron Smith · 06-06-2010, 08:38 AM

The bore is "frosted", with sharp lands and grooves. I've seen bores in much, much worse condition that shot like new. I doubt that you could ever tell the difference.

Knappolean · 06-06-2010, 12:55 PM

I have not tried firing as yet. Should there be any prelims I should follow?

mrerick · 06-06-2010, 04:03 PM

The first thing I do is completely disassemble, clean and lubricate a new (to me) luger. Look at the parts for wear, and feel the metal to metal contact.

Remember first that you're firing a 100 year old gun. It wasn't designed to handle the high pressure charges common in today's (particularly NATO standard 9mm) ammunition.

If you don't reload, find some common run of the mill white box Winchester like sold in the USA at many Walmart stores. 115gn or 124gn.

When I first fire an unknown gun, I start with only one cartridge in the magazine. Fire and see if everything cycles correctly. Then I do two cartridges in the magazine and see if reloading is correct.

Many Lugers are pretty sensitive to ammunition, and will misbehave by mis-feeding, stove pipeing etc... If this happens it can be caused by weak or improper springs (recoil and magazine feed), or unusual wear.

Above all have fun!

Marc

Knappolean · 06-06-2010, 05:45 PM

Got a lot of these. Thanks

06-05-2010, 05:24 PM	#1
Knappolean User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NE Florida Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chapter II New Guy... My 7803 seems to be a "Shooter" having had a makeover in its past. Any way to correct the indescretion or are we commited to crossing the "River Styx". I'll post a couple of bore photos for critique if you don't mind to discuss its condition. Bye the way I have appreciated all the responses. Very Interesting! I seem to have a 100 year old piece of history that I will cherish for a long time. Attached Thumbnails

06-05-2010, 06:56 PM	#3
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	RE bore: I've seen worse that shoot pretty well. Clean and brush it from the breech with your favorite cleaner. Then do as if you're breaking in a new barrel. Shoot one, swab, shoot one, swab. After 7-8 shots run the brush again, and then a patch. Repeat. Then standard cleaning when you get done. FN Last edited by FNorm; 06-05-2010 at 06:58 PM. Reason: sp

06-05-2010, 10:45 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The bore is in reasonably good shape for its age and the fact that it has been used and not a safe queen... I would bet it would shoot great. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-06-2010, 08:38 AM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The bore is "frosted", with sharp lands and grooves. I've seen bores in much, much worse condition that shot like new. I doubt that you could ever tell the difference. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-06-2010, 12:55 PM	#6
Knappolean User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NE Florida Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the Info I have not tried firing as yet. Should there be any prelims I should follow?

06-05-2010, 06:45 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	The first time I saw a Luger in movie... it's an European movie "Teheran 1943", an Allied agent (Russian?) holding a Luger (or Nambu? unlikely) killed a few Nazi spies. Too long ago, cannot remember clearly. Only remember a bunch people running and shooting each other with Lugers.

06-06-2010, 04:03 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	The first thing I do is completely disassemble, clean and lubricate a new (to me) luger. Look at the parts for wear, and feel the metal to metal contact. Remember first that you're firing a 100 year old gun. It wasn't designed to handle the high pressure charges common in today's (particularly NATO standard 9mm) ammunition. If you don't reload, find some common run of the mill white box Winchester like sold in the USA at many Walmart stores. 115gn or 124gn. When I first fire an unknown gun, I start with only one cartridge in the magazine. Fire and see if everything cycles correctly. Then I do two cartridges in the magazine and see if reloading is correct. Many Lugers are pretty sensitive to ammunition, and will misbehave by mis-feeding, stove pipeing etc... If this happens it can be caused by weak or improper springs (recoil and magazine feed), or unusual wear. Above all have fun! Marc

06-06-2010, 05:45 PM	#8
Knappolean User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NE Florida Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Win 115 Got a lot of these. Thanks