'Colonel' Samuel F. Cody

TennBill2 · 05-29-2011, 09:24 AM

Interesting pic:

sheepherder · 05-29-2011, 09:59 AM

Bianchi wrap-around grip for 'Borchadt-58' [sic] pistol???

Edward Tinker · 05-29-2011, 10:16 AM

I looked up a Sam Cody, who was a plane innovator.

Who is this guy, same one, but wild or?

Ed

Ron Wood · 05-29-2011, 10:21 AM

Sam Cody was a Wild West showman much like "Wild Bill Cody" and his Borchardt with the custom stock and grips is well known and has been pictured in several publications. I think most of his shows took place in England and Europe.

Edward Tinker · 05-29-2011, 10:32 AM

Thank you and thanks for the photo, very nice.

I didn't think he looked like 'Wild Bill Cody" and didn't know of a Sam Col, Colonel or otherwise

TennBill2 · 05-29-2011, 11:13 AM

The gun was supposedly held by the Cody Family until 1996 and sold as "deactivated"...what a shame. Still, a rather dashing looking fellow. Reminds me of myself when younger..........Yea, I wish! Or, perhaps Ron W., when slightly younger...

mlmahon · 05-29-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Thank you and thanks for the photo, very nice.

I didn't think he looked like 'Wild Bill Cody" and didn't know of a Sam Col, Colonel or otherwise

Who's 'Wild Bill Cody'?

I think you mean 'Buffalo Bill Cody'. Are we confusing with 'Wild Bill Hickok' or creating a new composite historical character?

-ML

Ron Wood · 05-29-2011, 02:47 PM

You are correct, I meant Buffalo Bill Cody...just another senior moment

. However, the concept of creating a composite historical character is appealing.

alanint · 05-29-2011, 02:59 PM

I think the gentleman of whom this thread is about already did this... I would very much guess that this is a stage name combining "Colonel Samuel Colt" and "Buffalo Bill Cody"

You can't get much more frontier American than that if you are a showman..

sheepherder · 05-29-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

You can't get much more frontier American than that if you are a showman..

On that note...I recall reading that the State of Kentucky conferred the title "Colonel" on Harland Sanders...presumably for promoting that state's poultry products...

...And that an auctioneer who hawked 1,000 auctions was honored with the title "Colonel"...

This in addition to the wealthy landowner who outfitted a regiment in Antebellum times, and for doing so was conferred with the rank of "Colonel"...

...Ain't books great???...

TennBill2 · 05-29-2011, 06:02 PM

Apparently he took the name 'Cody' after Buffalo Bill. If you do a search on Wikipedia, pretty good background on him...quite an interesting character in his own right. I thought the pic was cool, probably one of few showing the Borchardt, I'm guessing. See:www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Borchardt.htm

mlmahon · 05-30-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

You are correct, I meant Buffalo Bill Cody...just another senior moment

. However, the concept of creating a composite historical character is appealing.

Hey Ron, they do it all the time in the movies.

I seem to be having more and more of those 'moments' myself.

-ML

l10 · 05-31-2011, 07:57 PM

I recently picked up a book at a garage sale about one of Buffalo Bill's contemporaries, Pawnee Bill. As a kid I wondered why Barnum and Bailey circus had all the wagons with the Native Americans and frontier scenes carved on them and this book answered that long ago question. Pawnee Bill had a show as famous as Buffalo Bills and he was the one who commissioned and used the wagons. As his show drifted away Buffalo Bill bought the wagons and further down the road Barnum and Bailey became the owners. You can see them in the movie with Charlton Heston.
Buffalo Bill took in Pawnee Bill during his last years.
Another good older book on Buffalo Bill was written by Murat Halstead who was a very popular writer of the times.
Many years ago I bought some antique stacking book shelfs from an older gentleman. I also bought some of the nicer looking older books as we removed them from the cases. A few years later I got around to reading this beautiful red leather covered book about Admiral Dewey written by Murat Halstead. As I closed the book, for the first time I notice the gold lettering on the cover It said, from "Murat Halstead, the author to my good friend Admiral George Dewey." It turned out to be Admiral Dewey's presentation copy. Fun find.

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Sam Cody was a Wild West showman much like "Wild Bill Cody" and his Borchardt with the custom stock and grips is well known and has been pictured in several publications. I think most of his shows took place in England and Europe. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Cody Borchardt The gun was supposedly held by the Cody Family until 1996 and sold as "deactivated"...what a shame. Still, a rather dashing looking fellow. Reminds me of myself when younger..........Yea, I wish! Or, perhaps Ron W., when slightly younger...

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	You are correct, I meant Buffalo Bill Cody...just another senior moment. However, the concept of creating a composite historical character is appealing. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	I looked up a Sam Cody, who was a plane innovator. Who is this guy, same one, but wild or? Ed

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Thank you and thanks for the photo, very nice. I didn't think he looked like 'Wild Bill Cody" and didn't know of a Sam Col, Colonel or otherwise

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I think the gentleman of whom this thread is about already did this... I would very much guess that this is a stage name combining "Colonel Samuel Colt" and "Buffalo Bill Cody" You can't get much more frontier American than that if you are a showman..

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TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Samuel Franklin Cody Apparently he took the name 'Cody' after Buffalo Bill. If you do a search on Wikipedia, pretty good background on him...quite an interesting character in his own right. I thought the pic was cool, probably one of few showing the Borchardt, I'm guessing. See:www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Borchardt.htm

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l10 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I recently picked up a book at a garage sale about one of Buffalo Bill's contemporaries, Pawnee Bill. As a kid I wondered why Barnum and Bailey circus had all the wagons with the Native Americans and frontier scenes carved on them and this book answered that long ago question. Pawnee Bill had a show as famous as Buffalo Bills and he was the one who commissioned and used the wagons. As his show drifted away Buffalo Bill bought the wagons and further down the road Barnum and Bailey became the owners. You can see them in the movie with Charlton Heston. Buffalo Bill took in Pawnee Bill during his last years. Another good older book on Buffalo Bill was written by Murat Halstead who was a very popular writer of the times. Many years ago I bought some antique stacking book shelfs from an older gentleman. I also bought some of the nicer looking older books as we removed them from the cases. A few years later I got around to reading this beautiful red leather covered book about Admiral Dewey written by Murat Halstead. As I closed the book, for the first time I notice the gold lettering on the cover It said, from "Murat Halstead, the author to my good friend Admiral George Dewey." It turned out to be Admiral Dewey's presentation copy. Fun find.