Luger Values for Thor Restored Lugers

Thor · 03-14-2011, 03:24 PM

I have a good friend and client that has three Lugers that is seeking help from any collector in the NorthEast Pennsylvania area to inspect and give estimate a value on three Lugers I have restored for him. Thanks! Thor

PS Looked them up and they are: G Date Mauser Luger, 1921 DWM, 1918 Erfurt.

marshombre · 03-30-2011, 11:19 PM

Mr. Green, You have restored my 1912 DWM, and my 1913 Erfurt. I cannot assign a value to them. I consider both priceless. Just my .02 cents.
MR

Edward Tinker · 03-31-2011, 12:58 AM

Ted, i would volunteer but I am kinda not 'in' PA right now

I have always felt that you take the value of a 98% luger of whatever vintage and a restored is around 40-50% of that. Much more than a shooter, but less than a original gun...

He could get many wild and some accurate estimates at the Allentown show in a month in May

Ed

George Anderson · 03-31-2011, 07:45 AM

I will be at the Allentown show in May.

hansfischer007 · 03-31-2011, 09:21 AM

Hi Thor......You havent restored a Luger/PPK/..etc..etc. for me...as yet.....but that day is coming.!!...as Im always looking and especially will be at our April Military Show.........and when you do .....in my humble opinion...when I get it back....it will be PRICELESS..!!!....I can only think back to our last show when I saw a Wartime PPK sell for around $350 as all the finish was worn off of it......sigh....I know better now........///..Anyway....keep up the good work......Everything you work on is as I said....in my humble opinion ...is a "KEEPER".......... Hans Fischer...........

Thor · 04-02-2011, 01:28 PM

Thanks Hans for the nice compliment. I talked to my client today and he said he lived close to Allentown and would give the show a try, Thanks Ed for recommending it.

Vlim · 04-02-2011, 03:04 PM

I'm pretty confident that a documented Thor restoration will bring a premium compared to regular restoration / reblue guns.

Jasta2 · 04-02-2011, 08:48 PM

My Thor restored AE Test Luger makes most think it is a mint original! Why would I disagree with them! They are floored when I tell them it was restored. I can't say more than that!!

Thor · 04-02-2011, 10:34 PM

Thanks Jasta2, I love to hear that!

LugerVern · 04-03-2011, 07:32 AM

I tend to think like Ed for most restorations, in the 50% range, of a 98% gun however; many of Thor's guns are beautiful and restorations have been selling pretty good lately. There is a market for what he does that adds a premium, ( many people want an outstanding example). It doesn't matter what collectors want, its about market price. So I would add a 20% to that and say 70% to 80% depending on the gun.

As collectors we tend to get stuck in a rut, Thor's guns are eye catchers, and if taken care of will always have good resale value in the open market.

Just my two cents worth

Vern

JTD · 04-04-2011, 07:36 AM

Ted, what town is he in? I am in Wilkes-Barre area. John

Thor · 04-04-2011, 05:16 PM

John, he didnt say but he did tell me to give you his phone numbers, I will do that through private message. He said he was about 45 minutes away.
the 1918 Erfurt and the 1921 DWM both have custom made mahogany cases by Les Center. One case has the Imperial symbol laser cut into the top of the case and the other has the Weimar symbol laser cut. I think those are the same Eagles that are on Jan Still's books.

JTD · 04-05-2011, 08:01 AM

OK, will talk to him. John

BAT340 · 05-08-2011, 02:20 PM

Ted, You restored my 1910 shooter before you got sick a while back, Total resto, I think around $850.00, Anyway I have been offered $1800.00 for it, But I don't think I'll ever part with it. I don't even shoot it now, (shame) afraid something could give out. And since I made a custom walnut/ blue velvet case for it, It's pretty much a looker now. Anyway, I'm glad I sent it out to you for the resto. It's evident your name carries weight in the Luger world. Bill Masterson.

Daddydogg · 05-13-2011, 11:14 AM

Thor did a restoration of a K date for me. The results of his work took my breath away. He is an artist and master of gun restoration of the highest order. I cannot speak of his other works but the one example that I am priviledged to own, I consider it now a cherished heirloom. I enjoy that gun and have have Thor to thank for returning it to it's past glory. If I could afford it, if it's a Thor restored gun, I would be honored to buy it if for no other reason because it is a Thor restored gun. Truely beautiful work.

RP · 05-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Thanks to this forum I hooked-up with Ted on an all matching, previously re-blued/dipped 1939/code-42 military luger restoration. I decided to go full bore with Ted's TDJ treatment eventhough an original 1939/42 luger was not issued rust blued with strawed parts, just wanted to see what an earlier era pistole would look like brand new, 100yrs ago. At Ted's direction, we chose Hugh Clark, and GT for wooden grip re-checkering and magazine rehab with new custom made bottoms. Anyway, what I received was an amazing piece of art, probably considered as a fancy "shooter" grade piece by collectors, but definitely far too nice to shoot. Absolutely worth the price/wait to have three of the best in the business represented on this project. Also, when comparing my minty original rust blued 1936/S42, to Ted's rust blue work on the restoration, I cannot tell a difference in color between the two. After discussing this revelation with Ted it became apparent how much work, effort and skill is put into preparing metal and solution to result in a beautiful original looking finish. This applies to the fine work of Hugh and Gerry as well, priceless.

03-14-2011, 03:24 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Luger Values for Thor Restored Lugers I have a good friend and client that has three Lugers that is seeking help from any collector in the NorthEast Pennsylvania area to inspect and give estimate a value on three Lugers I have restored for him. Thanks! Thor PS Looked them up and they are: G Date Mauser Luger, 1921 DWM, 1918 Erfurt. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-31-2011, 09:21 AM	#5
hansfischer007 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sunny Tennessee Posts: 233 Thanks: 509 Thanked 96 Times in 48 Posts	Thor Restored Pistols Hi Thor......You havent restored a Luger/PPK/..etc..etc. for me...as yet.....but that day is coming.!!...as Im always looking and especially will be at our April Military Show.........and when you do .....in my humble opinion...when I get it back....it will be PRICELESS..!!!....I can only think back to our last show when I saw a Wartime PPK sell for around $350 as all the finish was worn off of it......sigh....I know better now........///..Anyway....keep up the good work......Everything you work on is as I said....in my humble opinion ...is a "KEEPER".......... Hans Fischer...........

04-02-2011, 01:28 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Thanks Hans for the nice compliment. I talked to my client today and he said he lived close to Allentown and would give the show a try, Thanks Ed for recommending it. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-02-2011, 10:34 PM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Thanks Jasta2, I love to hear that! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-04-2011, 05:16 PM	#12
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	John, he didnt say but he did tell me to give you his phone numbers, I will do that through private message. He said he was about 45 minutes away. the 1918 Erfurt and the 1921 DWM both have custom made mahogany cases by Les Center. One case has the Imperial symbol laser cut into the top of the case and the other has the Weimar symbol laser cut. I think those are the same Eagles that are on Jan Still's books. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-30-2011, 11:19 PM	#2
marshombre User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: W Central FL Posts: 97 Thanks: 12 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	Mr. Green, You have restored my 1912 DWM, and my 1913 Erfurt. I cannot assign a value to them. I consider both priceless. Just my .02 cents. MR

03-31-2011, 12:58 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Ted, i would volunteer but I am kinda not 'in' PA right now I have always felt that you take the value of a 98% luger of whatever vintage and a restored is around 40-50% of that. Much more than a shooter, but less than a original gun... He could get many wild and some accurate estimates at the Allentown show in a month in May Ed

03-31-2011, 07:45 AM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	I will be at the Allentown show in May.

04-02-2011, 03:04 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,042 Thanks: 1,032 Thanked 3,920 Times in 1,193 Posts	I'm pretty confident that a documented Thor restoration will bring a premium compared to regular restoration / reblue guns.

04-02-2011, 08:48 PM	#8
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	My Thor restored AE Test Luger makes most think it is a mint original! Why would I disagree with them! They are floored when I tell them it was restored. I can't say more than that!!

04-03-2011, 07:32 AM	#10
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	I tend to think like Ed for most restorations, in the 50% range, of a 98% gun however; many of Thor's guns are beautiful and restorations have been selling pretty good lately. There is a market for what he does that adds a premium, ( many people want an outstanding example). It doesn't matter what collectors want, its about market price. So I would add a 20% to that and say 70% to 80% depending on the gun. As collectors we tend to get stuck in a rut, Thor's guns are eye catchers, and if taken care of will always have good resale value in the open market. Just my two cents worth Vern

04-04-2011, 07:36 AM	#11
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 215 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	Ted, what town is he in? I am in Wilkes-Barre area. John

04-05-2011, 08:01 AM	#13
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 215 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	OK, will talk to him. John

05-08-2011, 02:20 PM	#14
BAT340 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 21 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Ted, You restored my 1910 shooter before you got sick a while back, Total resto, I think around $850.00, Anyway I have been offered $1800.00 for it, But I don't think I'll ever part with it. I don't even shoot it now, (shame) afraid something could give out. And since I made a custom walnut/ blue velvet case for it, It's pretty much a looker now. Anyway, I'm glad I sent it out to you for the resto. It's evident your name carries weight in the Luger world. Bill Masterson.

05-13-2011, 11:14 AM	#15
Daddydogg User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 69 Thanks: 35 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	Thor did a restoration of a K date for me. The results of his work took my breath away. He is an artist and master of gun restoration of the highest order. I cannot speak of his other works but the one example that I am priviledged to own, I consider it now a cherished heirloom. I enjoy that gun and have have Thor to thank for returning it to it's past glory. If I could afford it, if it's a Thor restored gun, I would be honored to buy it if for no other reason because it is a Thor restored gun. Truely beautiful work.

05-13-2011, 02:29 PM	#16
RP User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 4 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks to this forum I hooked-up with Ted on an all matching, previously re-blued/dipped 1939/code-42 military luger restoration. I decided to go full bore with Ted's TDJ treatment eventhough an original 1939/42 luger was not issued rust blued with strawed parts, just wanted to see what an earlier era pistole would look like brand new, 100yrs ago. At Ted's direction, we chose Hugh Clark, and GT for wooden grip re-checkering and magazine rehab with new custom made bottoms. Anyway, what I received was an amazing piece of art, probably considered as a fancy "shooter" grade piece by collectors, but definitely far too nice to shoot. Absolutely worth the price/wait to have three of the best in the business represented on this project. Also, when comparing my minty original rust blued 1936/S42, to Ted's rust blue work on the restoration, I cannot tell a difference in color between the two. After discussing this revelation with Ted it became apparent how much work, effort and skill is put into preparing metal and solution to result in a beautiful original looking finish. This applies to the fine work of Hugh and Gerry as well, priceless.