Moot vs Mute - Page 2

Pistol · 06-17-2021, 11:19 PM

Poor grammar and punctuation can be annoying, but what gets me are those that don't know history or simple math.

Just watch one of those shows where the reporter hits the streets to ask questions a first grader could answer.
Many don't know the difference between WWII and the Civil War. Some can't identify a photo of Thomas Jefferson.

Here are two videos from a few years back. Funny, but at the same time it is pathetic and sad. Welcome to the new America, well, at least we have another federal holiday ...... Happy Juneteenth!

https://youtu.be/oUTyRPB7AlU

https://youtu.be/dDu_rEo74i4

Eugen · 06-18-2021, 06:18 AM

Ron, good point about annoying misuse of words. One butchered cliché that I find amusing, is when folks say, "I could care less", when they really mean the opposite. That is they "couldn't care less". LOL

SteveM · 06-18-2021, 08:50 AM

What really irritates me is someone quoting the second amendment using "bare arms" instead of "bear arms". They must be thinking it can't be bear cuz that's a four legged animal.

Bill_in_VA · 06-18-2021, 09:44 AM

I kind of like it when a pretty girl says “bare with me”; it means I might get lucky. :-D

jeb111 · 06-18-2021, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pistol

Poor grammar and punctuation can be annoying, but what gets me are those that don't know history or simple math.

Just watch one of those shows where the reporter hits the streets to ask questions a first grader could answer.
Many don't know the difference between WWII and the Civil War. Some can't identify a photo of Thomas Jefferson.

Here are two videos from a few years back. Funny, but at the same time it is pathetic and sad. Welcome to the new America, well, at least we have another federal holiday ...... Happy Juneteenth!

https://youtu.be/oUTyRPB7AlU

https://youtu.be/dDu_rEo74i4

I remember years ago Jay Leno doing his skit of asking people on the street random basic history questions. Going up to a stereotypical surfer dude and asking "when was the War of 1812?", his response "Dude, I don't even know!"
Jim

mrerick · 06-18-2021, 10:05 AM

A mute trumpet sounding retreat after loss of a battle is moot testament to the valor of the fallen.

The curious carpenter picked up his hammer and saw!

When I moved to the South, I always wondered what was meant by, "I'll get up with you later"...

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The multiple meaning of same or similar sounding words has always kept language "living" as people either play with the words, or unintentionally confuse them. English is full of examples over time. So are other languages like German, which evolved into old English. (corrected per below)

Words like "irregardless" have made their way into language in my area, including a cafe by that name.

Language is living. My state (ranging from coastal Gullah communities to the Scotch-Irish roots of the mountain folk, has a huge range of accents and language usage.

I try to use language correctly, but am sometimes amused by what I hear from time to time...

When I was helping produce television, we had a program on regional accents in our state. The production process includes closed captioning for hearing impaired, which is done by hand by people with court reporting skills. The caption files for this program didn't come back on schedule, and the caption encoder finally called us and asked us never to send a program like this one to him again... We finally got the files, but it was difficult.

The correct interpretation of similar sounding words is a real challenge in automated voice recognition. Much of the artificial intelligence used in modern systems chews up processing power on this problem.

Doubs · 06-18-2021, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

So are other languages like German, which is based in old English.

Quite the opposite; English evolved from German.

"English is a West Germanic language that originated from Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Britain in the mid 5th to 7th centuries AD by Anglo-Saxon migrants from what is now northwest Germany, southern Denmark and the Netherlands. ... The Late West Saxon dialect eventually became dominant."

Only one King in Britain is called "Great" and that was King Alfred the Great who likely kept the English language from extinction. He insisted that court affairs and education be conducted in English rather than Latin.

George Anderson · 06-18-2021, 02:30 PM

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spangy · 06-18-2021, 02:52 PM

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06-18-2021, 06:18 AM	#22
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 757 Thanks: 366 Thanked 594 Times in 313 Posts	Ron, good point about annoying misuse of words. One butchered cliché that I find amusing, is when folks say, "I could care less", when they really mean the opposite. That is they "couldn't care less". LOL __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

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Bill_in_VA User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 343 Thanks: 731 Thanked 470 Times in 178 Posts	I kind of like it when a pretty girl says “bare with me”; it means I might get lucky. :-D __________________ John 8:32 reive (riːv) vb (Military) (intr) dialect Scot and Northern English to go on a plundering raid [variant of reave] ˈreiver n e.g., " Some view the Border Reivers as loveable rogues."

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	A mute trumpet sounding retreat after loss of a battle is moot testament to the valor of the fallen. The curious carpenter picked up his hammer and saw! When I moved to the South, I always wondered what was meant by, "I'll get up with you later"... - - - - The multiple meaning of same or similar sounding words has always kept language "living" as people either play with the words, or unintentionally confuse them. English is full of examples over time. So are other languages like German, which evolved into old English. (corrected per below) Words like "irregardless" have made their way into language in my area, including a cafe by that name. Language is living. My state (ranging from coastal Gullah communities to the Scotch-Irish roots of the mountain folk, has a huge range of accents and language usage. I try to use language correctly, but am sometimes amused by what I hear from time to time... When I was helping produce television, we had a program on regional accents in our state. The production process includes closed captioning for hearing impaired, which is done by hand by people with court reporting skills. The caption files for this program didn't come back on schedule, and the caption encoder finally called us and asked us never to send a program like this one to him again... We finally got the files, but it was difficult. The correct interpretation of similar sounding words is a real challenge in automated voice recognition. Much of the artificial intelligence used in modern systems chews up processing power on this problem. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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06-17-2021, 11:19 PM	#21
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 421 Thanks: 430 Thanked 214 Times in 95 Posts	Poor grammar and punctuation can be annoying, but what gets me are those that don't know history or simple math. Just watch one of those shows where the reporter hits the streets to ask questions a first grader could answer. Many don't know the difference between WWII and the Civil War. Some can't identify a photo of Thomas Jefferson. Here are two videos from a few years back. Funny, but at the same time it is pathetic and sad. Welcome to the new America, well, at least we have another federal holiday ...... Happy Juneteenth! https://youtu.be/oUTyRPB7AlU https://youtu.be/dDu_rEo74i4

06-18-2021, 08:50 AM	#23
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	What really irritates me is someone quoting the second amendment using "bare arms" instead of "bear arms". They must be thinking it can't be bear cuz that's a four legged animal.