What does he have, a re-work?

three-steps · 06-03-2016, 05:05 PM

I am all ways on the hunt for my next P08, A guy at work show me one today that I am not sure of? It is unmarked, except for the Serial number (on frame under the barrel) SZ782X, and the word “Germany”. The number appears to match and may have been re-blued @ sometime in the past. What does he have a re-work with the marking ground off? I was thinking about picking it up for $300 bucks as a shooter-what do you guys think?

DonVoigt · 06-03-2016, 05:08 PM

If it is safe to shoot, and will shoot, it is probably worth $300.

Can't tell much more about it without more info and pictures.

mrerick · 06-03-2016, 05:30 PM

ATF holds changing or defacing serial numbers a crime. I've never heard of a Luger with a serial number formatted that way.

Can't help much without a picture.

Caveat Emptor.

three-steps · 06-03-2016, 11:29 PM

OK- as I remember ,the stamped serial # ,appeared to be factory made, But I will check it again on monday-

Edward Tinker · 06-04-2016, 12:11 AM

All German made lugers are either four digit, four digit with a letter (suffix) or can be up to six digits, no letters.

No exceptions on front of frame numbers known to me...

Sergio Natali · 06-04-2016, 02:58 AM

Georg
Could you post some close up pictures of that gun?

Don M · 06-04-2016, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

All German made ligers are either four digit, four digit with a letter (suffix) or can be up to six digits, no letters.

No exceptions on front of frame numbers known to me...

One, two and three-digit numbers are also possible, though much rarer.

Sergio Natali · 06-04-2016, 11:53 AM

three-steps

Post some close up, detailed pictures of the pistol and describe it to us in detail. After that maybe we can give you an idea of originality and value.

three-steps · 06-05-2016, 12:03 PM

I called the guy today (about something else) and asked him to re check the serial #. He said that he sees a mark over a N and( four numbers) 782#,so I may be wrong about the serial # and will check it on Monday.

alanint · 06-05-2016, 12:06 PM

The Crown over N would indicate a commercial pistol.

mrerick · 06-05-2016, 01:02 PM

A commercial shooter grade luger (which often will be found in 7.65mm Luger caliber) is worth more than $300 today...

Diver6106 · 06-05-2016, 03:35 PM

I have a number of pistols that are so worn, rusted or pitted that the serial numbers can't be completely read. The old Spanish Ruby's are routinely this way. Yet many are sold and auctioned off. I've owned 22 rifles that never had serial numbers, they were just made and sold in the US prior to WWII. So no serial is not a game stopper, and at $300 any complete luger, not demilled, is worth the price.

three-steps · 06-16-2016, 04:18 PM

Well- it was what it was , He sold it for 500 bucks- so I am back on the hunt.

06-03-2016, 05:05 PM	#1
three-steps User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What does he have, a re-work? I am all ways on the hunt for my next P08, A guy at work show me one today that I am not sure of? It is unmarked, except for the Serial number (on frame under the barrel) SZ782X, and the word “Germany”. The number appears to match and may have been re-blued @ sometime in the past. What does he have a re-work with the marking ground off? I was thinking about picking it up for $300 bucks as a shooter-what do you guys think?

06-03-2016, 05:08 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	If it is safe to shoot, and will shoot, it is probably worth $300. Can't tell much more about it without more info and pictures. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

06-03-2016, 05:30 PM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	ATF holds changing or defacing serial numbers a crime. I've never heard of a Luger with a serial number formatted that way. Can't help much without a picture. Caveat Emptor. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

06-04-2016, 12:11 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	All German made lugers are either four digit, four digit with a letter (suffix) or can be up to six digits, no letters. No exceptions on front of frame numbers known to me... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV Last edited by Edward Tinker; 06-04-2016 at 12:09 PM.

06-04-2016, 02:58 AM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Georg Could you post some close up pictures of that gun? __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

06-03-2016, 11:29 PM	#4
three-steps User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK- as I remember ,the stamped serial # ,appeared to be factory made, But I will check it again on monday-

06-04-2016, 11:53 AM	#8
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	three-steps Post some close up, detailed pictures of the pistol and describe it to us in detail. After that maybe we can give you an idea of originality and value. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

06-05-2016, 12:03 PM	#9
three-steps User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I called the guy today (about something else) and asked him to re check the serial #. He said that he sees a mark over a N and( four numbers) 782#,so I may be wrong about the serial # and will check it on Monday.

06-05-2016, 12:06 PM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The Crown over N would indicate a commercial pistol.

06-05-2016, 01:02 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	A commercial shooter grade luger (which often will be found in 7.65mm Luger caliber) is worth more than $300 today... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

06-05-2016, 03:35 PM	#12
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 244 Thanks: 1,417 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	I have a number of pistols that are so worn, rusted or pitted that the serial numbers can't be completely read. The old Spanish Ruby's are routinely this way. Yet many are sold and auctioned off. I've owned 22 rifles that never had serial numbers, they were just made and sold in the US prior to WWII. So no serial is not a game stopper, and at $300 any complete luger, not demilled, is worth the price.

06-16-2016, 04:18 PM	#13
three-steps User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well- it was what it was , He sold it for 500 bucks- so I am back on the hunt.