Oh My God...!!!

Pete Ebbink · 04-18-2005, 10:18 PM

http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=2080

trigger643 · 04-18-2005, 10:33 PM

Jeez, I donno pete... I'm kinda liking it. I guess if you have to scratch one up, this would be the appropriate way to do it (reminds me somewhat of the Borchardt and 1902 Carbine at the Norton Gallery). A first class job. Without digging through my boxes for my Naval Reference books, can anyone identify the ships?

Big Norm · 04-18-2005, 10:48 PM

I wonder why they didn't straw the trigger on this 1908 navy?
Big Norm

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Does anyone have any ideas for a new carreer? Maybe you have something that works...because I don't.

Edward Tinker · 04-18-2005, 10:49 PM

I like it too, wonder if Hugh will

Pete Ebbink · 04-18-2005, 11:12 PM

Looks like it started out as a M1908 Navy...

Actually, I think the engraving is wonderful and done with skill !

Dwight Gruber · 04-18-2005, 11:50 PM

I liket the grips and mag base. I can tell you from experience that ivory grips feel really good for shooting.

--Dwight

wterrell · 04-19-2005, 12:30 AM

This is an excellent piece! Engraving is marvelous.

Excellent!

Navy · 04-19-2005, 07:12 AM

Have run across a couple of these over the years. The engraving is like a signature and I believe they were all done by the same person. The last one I saw was in Tidewater VA and it came out of the estate of a retired Navy officer who had served as the Navy liaison to the Army in Hamburg in 1946-47.

Tom A.

Hugh · 04-19-2005, 09:09 AM

I LOVE IT! Especially those beautiful grips & mag bottom! I too would like to know if the ships are German or Allied?

Ron Smith · 04-19-2005, 09:51 AM

My guess would be that they are an artist's concept of German Pocket Battleships. The angle of the prow and the cylindrical shape of the forward superstructure and bridge, and pylon type masts tends to lead to this. The rake of the funnels(smoke stacks) isn't correct. German pocket battleships usually have a single funnel, which is vertical.Really not accurate enough to say for absolute certain. Just an educated guess.

Ron

Tomathvl · 04-19-2005, 03:30 PM

It really don't make no never mind.
There's two types of ships, TARGETS and SUBMARINES.
Tom

Ron Smith · 04-19-2005, 04:04 PM

Hey Tom, Spoken like a true "Bubble Head".

Ron

trigger643 · 04-20-2005, 06:48 PM

Found my German Warship Identification Guide 1900-1945. Neither of these ships are in it. All the pocket battleships were single stacks. The superstructures aren't even close. Perhaps they are US or British? Maybe representing ships the prior owner actually served on? I'm not convinced these are fanciful renderings. I'm betting they are actual ships (I base this on too much detail).

PAOLO · 04-22-2005, 02:39 PM

Hi
The only thing I can add is that the firing pin bar is a post-1916 one,else than the gun.

Rod WMG · 04-22-2005, 06:24 PM

man! If I bought every gun I wanted, my wife would be broke!

trigger643 · 04-22-2005, 06:30 PM

Rod, If I bought every gun I wanted, my wife would understand ... why she had to rip my arms out of their sockets....

04-18-2005, 10:18 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Oh My God...!!! http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=2080

04-18-2005, 10:33 PM	#2
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Jeez, I donno pete... I'm kinda liking it. I guess if you have to scratch one up, this would be the appropriate way to do it (reminds me somewhat of the Borchardt and 1902 Carbine at the Norton Gallery). A first class job. Without digging through my boxes for my Naval Reference books, can anyone identify the ships? __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

04-18-2005, 10:49 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	I like it too, wonder if Hugh will __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-19-2005, 12:30 AM	#7
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	This is an excellent piece! Engraving is marvelous. Excellent! __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

04-19-2005, 09:09 AM	#9
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	I LOVE IT! Especially those beautiful grips & mag bottom! I too would like to know if the ships are German or Allied? __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

04-18-2005, 10:48 PM	#3
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I wonder why they didn't straw the trigger on this 1908 navy? Big Norm _______________________ Does anyone have any ideas for a new carreer? Maybe you have something that works...because I don't.

04-18-2005, 11:12 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Looks like it started out as a M1908 Navy... Actually, I think the engraving is wonderful and done with skill !

04-18-2005, 11:50 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	I liket the grips and mag base. I can tell you from experience that ivory grips feel really good for shooting. --Dwight

04-19-2005, 07:12 AM	#8
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Have run across a couple of these over the years. The engraving is like a signature and I believe they were all done by the same person. The last one I saw was in Tidewater VA and it came out of the estate of a retired Navy officer who had served as the Navy liaison to the Army in Hamburg in 1946-47. Tom A.

04-19-2005, 09:51 AM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	My guess would be that they are an artist's concept of German Pocket Battleships. The angle of the prow and the cylindrical shape of the forward superstructure and bridge, and pylon type masts tends to lead to this. The rake of the funnels(smoke stacks) isn't correct. German pocket battleships usually have a single funnel, which is vertical.Really not accurate enough to say for absolute certain. Just an educated guess. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-19-2005, 03:30 PM	#11
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	It really don't make no never mind. There's two types of ships, TARGETS and SUBMARINES. Tom

04-19-2005, 04:04 PM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey Tom, Spoken like a true "Bubble Head". Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-20-2005, 06:48 PM	#13
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Found my German Warship Identification Guide 1900-1945. Neither of these ships are in it. All the pocket battleships were single stacks. The superstructures aren't even close. Perhaps they are US or British? Maybe representing ships the prior owner actually served on? I'm not convinced these are fanciful renderings. I'm betting they are actual ships (I base this on too much detail). __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

04-22-2005, 02:39 PM	#14
PAOLO User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cremona, Italy Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi The only thing I can add is that the firing pin bar is a post-1916 one,else than the gun. __________________ PAOLO

04-22-2005, 06:24 PM	#15
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	man! If I bought every gun I wanted, my wife would be broke!

04-22-2005, 06:30 PM	#16
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Rod, If I bought every gun I wanted, my wife would understand ... why she had to rip my arms out of their sockets.... __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown