identify magazine?

bygmyke · 11-26-2010, 04:24 PM

Can anybody help me identify a magazine I have? I know pictures would really help, sorry no access to a camera. Its a blued mag with an aluminum bottom with numbers 7479 and it looks to be a script "w". There is also a number 5 on the mag bottom right next to where the pin goes thru.

mrerick · 11-26-2010, 05:23 PM

Is the magazine made of extruded steel or bent steel?

tharpo · 11-26-2010, 05:34 PM

If it looks like this one then it is for a 1939-42 Mauser made luger.

Tom

bygmyke · 11-26-2010, 06:09 PM

mrerick sorry for my newbness but I dont know the difference between extruded or bent steel. It has the exact same "w" but thats all no other markings on the bottom other then the number.

Edward Tinker · 11-26-2010, 10:57 PM

newbness doesn't matter, I have been playing with these for a long time and I get the extruded and blah, blah and simply can't tell the difference to a new guy...

Looking at magazines, I can tell you when they were made, but trying to say it outloud, well, I just can't.

In this hobby on the forum, its why a picture is worth a thousand words, it shouts out what type it is, even if you don't know.

But, just by what you said, its a WW2 era magazine (most likely, but the reason to ask for pictures is to ensure it is not a post war repro or DDR mag)
Ed

Norme · 11-26-2010, 11:03 PM

Here they are, extruded below. Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair · 11-27-2010, 04:56 PM

Pretty simple actually. The rolled steel crimp mags are like a can of beans. The metal seam is joined by hooking the metal edges together in U shape and squashing them together to attach them.
The extruded type have no seam at all. They are pushed out of a die whole in circumfrence so no seam is needed to join an edge cause there ain't no edge to join.

in Norm's excellent photo's you can see the seam below the spring about a quarter inch below the spring window.
On the extruded mag you can see a line there but no seam as it is whole metal that does not need to be joined.
You will also notice differences in the steel of each mag. The top sheet steel mag looks more like the bean can as it is thin sheet steel.
The mag below is pushed out of a die while hot and molten..like taking a dump after a night cruising bars in Tiajuana. Different metal to achieve this.
Once you recognize these mags for what they are... you will wonder why people who can't see it are such blockheads. I guess I am supposed to put in a smiley face here..Not.

Jerry Burney

bygmyke · 11-27-2010, 05:45 PM

well my mag looks exactly like the top one in Norms picture. I think I understand, the extruded ones are pushed thru a die to achieve the desired shape where as the bent kind are stamped?

lugerholsterrepair · 11-27-2010, 06:19 PM

Pretty much.

Jerry Burney

bygmyke · 11-28-2010, 07:31 PM

Does anybody have any clue how much its worth?

mrerick · 11-28-2010, 09:06 PM

It's hard to estimate value without the photos.

Condition, actual era, rarity all contribute to a valuation. The appearance of the stamped numbers / letter help identify if it's original or something done somewhere other than the factory.

There should be a WaAmt stamp on an original magazine, and it should have never been ground down where the serial number is. I don't know what the number "5" might relate to in your description.

You can get extruded DDR Mags for $85. MegGar magazines for $50. An original like the one Tom pictured, perhaps $125 - $150...

What you have is anyone's guess at this point.

Marc

MFC · 11-28-2010, 09:11 PM

They usually sell for around $100-$120. There are a lot of Luger mags on Gunbroker recently. Just like everything else, they aren't selling for as much as they were in the past.

bygmyke · 11-29-2010, 02:39 AM

Im gonna try to get some pics up soon, the reason im asking is id like to sell it if its a decent mag to someone that maybe needs it and purchase a couple repro mags as i have a mix matched number shooter. Thanks for the help this far though fellas.

11-26-2010, 04:24 PM	#1
bygmyke User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	identify magazine? Can anybody help me identify a magazine I have? I know pictures would really help, sorry no access to a camera. Its a blued mag with an aluminum bottom with numbers 7479 and it looks to be a script "w". There is also a number 5 on the mag bottom right next to where the pin goes thru.

11-26-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Is the magazine made of extruded steel or bent steel? __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-26-2010, 05:34 PM	#3
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 536 Thanks: 116 Thanked 375 Times in 153 Posts	If it looks like this one then it is for a 1939-42 Mauser made luger. Tom Attached Thumbnails

11-26-2010, 10:57 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	newbness doesn't matter, I have been playing with these for a long time and I get the extruded and blah, blah and simply can't tell the difference to a new guy... Looking at magazines, I can tell you when they were made, but trying to say it outloud, well, I just can't. In this hobby on the forum, its why a picture is worth a thousand words, it shouts out what type it is, even if you don't know. But, just by what you said, its a WW2 era magazine (most likely, but the reason to ask for pictures is to ensure it is not a post war repro or DDR mag) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-26-2010, 11:03 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Here they are, extruded below. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

11-26-2010, 06:09 PM	#4
bygmyke User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	mrerick sorry for my newbness but I dont know the difference between extruded or bent steel. It has the exact same "w" but thats all no other markings on the bottom other then the number.

11-27-2010, 04:56 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Pretty simple actually. The rolled steel crimp mags are like a can of beans. The metal seam is joined by hooking the metal edges together in U shape and squashing them together to attach them. The extruded type have no seam at all. They are pushed out of a die whole in circumfrence so no seam is needed to join an edge cause there ain't no edge to join. in Norm's excellent photo's you can see the seam below the spring about a quarter inch below the spring window. On the extruded mag you can see a line there but no seam as it is whole metal that does not need to be joined. You will also notice differences in the steel of each mag. The top sheet steel mag looks more like the bean can as it is thin sheet steel. The mag below is pushed out of a die while hot and molten..like taking a dump after a night cruising bars in Tiajuana. Different metal to achieve this. Once you recognize these mags for what they are... you will wonder why people who can't see it are such blockheads. I guess I am supposed to put in a smiley face here..Not. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-27-2010, 05:45 PM	#8
bygmyke User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well my mag looks exactly like the top one in Norms picture. I think I understand, the extruded ones are pushed thru a die to achieve the desired shape where as the bent kind are stamped?

11-27-2010, 06:19 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Pretty much. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-28-2010, 07:31 PM	#10
bygmyke User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Does anybody have any clue how much its worth?

11-28-2010, 09:06 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	It's hard to estimate value without the photos. Condition, actual era, rarity all contribute to a valuation. The appearance of the stamped numbers / letter help identify if it's original or something done somewhere other than the factory. There should be a WaAmt stamp on an original magazine, and it should have never been ground down where the serial number is. I don't know what the number "5" might relate to in your description. You can get extruded DDR Mags for $85. MegGar magazines for $50. An original like the one Tom pictured, perhaps $125 - $150... What you have is anyone's guess at this point. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-28-2010, 09:11 PM	#12
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	They usually sell for around $100-$120. There are a lot of Luger mags on Gunbroker recently. Just like everything else, they aren't selling for as much as they were in the past. __________________ Mike C.

11-29-2010, 02:39 AM	#13
bygmyke User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Im gonna try to get some pics up soon, the reason im asking is id like to sell it if its a decent mag to someone that maybe needs it and purchase a couple repro mags as i have a mix matched number shooter. Thanks for the help this far though fellas.