1914 Commercial Navy

JoeP.08 · 03-03-2006, 04:43 PM

Howdy Gents,

I am looking for more printed information on the 1914 Commercial Navy. I have Jan Still's Imperial Lugers and was hoping there were other resourses with more information on this piece.

Thank you.

Joe

JoeP.08 · 03-08-2006, 10:20 PM

Here's some pictures....

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...avy_proofs.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...avy_barrel.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...navy_frame.jpg

John Sabato · 03-08-2006, 11:05 PM

There is a book, now out of print, The Navy Luger by Joachim Goertz... you might find it at gun shows or rare book stores... The last one I saw on Ebay went for about $125.00 or more...

I sold about half a dozen new copies that I had accumulated for $75.00 each I think it was early last year. The only copy I have left isn't for sale.

Pete Ebbink · 03-08-2006, 11:40 PM

Joe,

Any chance you could post photos showing the entire gun from many sides ?

Navy · 03-09-2006, 08:21 AM

Leo LaValle had one FS at SOS; it was 100% right. I wish I had gotten to it before someone else bought it.

Tom A.

JoeP.08 · 03-09-2006, 03:17 PM

Tom, I'm the some one else.

Pete, I'll post some more as soon as poss... Had full side shots, but they were too big. I'll change the image size and re-do.

Joe P.

Pete Ebbink · 03-09-2006, 03:47 PM

Joe,

If you have big jpeg files, you can send them to me and I can easily resize and post them up for you...

pebbink@pacbell.net

Here is a link to an excellent posting on Navy proofs on Jan Still's Gun Board :

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=421

Pete Ebbink · 03-09-2006, 03:50 PM

John S.,

I am not sure the "The Navy Luger" book covers commericals...

Pete Ebbink · 03-09-2006, 03:55 PM

Tom A.,

Would one still expect a large toggle pin flange on this M1914 commerical...adapted for navy use ?

Is the crown floating a bit above the M in the one photo Joe P. posted ?

John Sabato · 03-09-2006, 05:54 PM

Pete, I bow to your statement ... I can't say for sure because I am separated from my library... but it is still a book I want to keep. If any of you find one, you better snatch it up.

Navy · 03-09-2006, 06:48 PM

Pete,

Standard toggle axel pin; it was a commercial pistol pulled off the line and procured by the Navy; in the US military we would refer to this as a "Limited procurement-commercial equivalent".

The proof is correct.

Tom A

JoeP.08 · 03-09-2006, 09:16 PM

Pete, Here's some more pics.

03-03-2006, 04:43 PM	#1
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1914 Commercial Navy Howdy Gents, I am looking for more printed information on the 1914 Commercial Navy. I have Jan Still's Imperial Lugers and was hoping there were other resourses with more information on this piece. Thank you. Joe

03-08-2006, 11:05 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	There is a book, now out of print, The Navy Luger by Joachim Goertz... you might find it at gun shows or rare book stores... The last one I saw on Ebay went for about $125.00 or more... I sold about half a dozen new copies that I had accumulated for $75.00 each I think it was early last year. The only copy I have left isn't for sale. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-09-2006, 03:17 PM	#6
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Tom, I'm the some one else. Pete, I'll post some more as soon as poss... Had full side shots, but they were too big. I'll change the image size and re-do. Joe P. __________________ "It's good to be a great man but it's great to be a good man." Joseph F. Pirolo Sr. (1934-2010)

03-09-2006, 05:54 PM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Pete, I bow to your statement ... I can't say for sure because I am separated from my library... but it is still a book I want to keep. If any of you find one, you better snatch it up. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-08-2006, 10:20 PM	#2
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Here's some pictures.... http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...avy_proofs.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...avy_barrel.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...navy_frame.jpg

03-08-2006, 11:40 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Joe, Any chance you could post photos showing the entire gun from many sides ?

03-09-2006, 08:21 AM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Leo LaValle had one FS at SOS; it was 100% right. I wish I had gotten to it before someone else bought it. Tom A.

03-09-2006, 03:47 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Joe, If you have big jpeg files, you can send them to me and I can easily resize and post them up for you... pebbink@pacbell.net Here is a link to an excellent posting on Navy proofs on Jan Still's Gun Board : http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=421

03-09-2006, 03:50 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	John S., I am not sure the "The Navy Luger" book covers commericals...

03-09-2006, 03:55 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Tom A., Would one still expect a large toggle pin flange on this M1914 commerical...adapted for navy use ? Is the crown floating a bit above the M in the one photo Joe P. posted ?

03-09-2006, 06:48 PM	#11
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Pete, Standard toggle axel pin; it was a commercial pistol pulled off the line and procured by the Navy; in the US military we would refer to this as a "Limited procurement-commercial equivalent". The proof is correct. Tom A

03-09-2006, 09:16 PM	#12
JoeP.08 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Pete, Here's some more pics. http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/1914_back_side.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...back_strap.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...._navy_mag.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/1914_flat_left.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...flat_right.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...right_side.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...ront_strap.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...e_w_proofs.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/1914_side_top.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/1914_top_side.jpg