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02-09-2012, 10:38 PM | #1 |
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Firing a c 96 mauser 7.65
this is a 1930 mauser c 96 in being fired and shown with the matching stock holster. I do know the history and a bit about it, a world war two bring back, given to me by my uncle, member of the 101 st abn div, was aquired in belguim jan 1945, near the town of bastone, belguim, still shoots and functions well, pistol and stock have matching numbers.
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thanks i did do a bit of cleaning on it. the safety was broken only took six years to find the correct one. the leather harnes on the shoilder stock had rotted to nothing, but the rest has cleaned up rather well i think.
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Six years to find an M30 safety??? I bet Alvin has one in the glovebox of his car...
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Mauser's manual claimed factory tested one 1930 by fast firing 2200 rounds without cleaning, no issues. Another gun fired 11000 rounds without loss of accuracy or obvious wear.
I have not fired that many rounds in range. But I tried a few small ring hammer C96s in range, including prewar commercial, red 9, and 1930. All of them worked fine. Surprisingly, a 1930 and a 1914 commercial were even more reliable than my 1967 Interarms P1. I keep suggesting people acquiring one of those nice small ring hammer for shooting fun. It's not fragile at all. |
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For $50 you can get a reasonable holster replica to keep that stock in.. http://www.atlantacutlery.com/p-1980...aning-rod.aspx |
02-10-2012, 09:53 AM | #7 |
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i have looked at a few of the replicas on ebay, but i keep finding a few orginals around gun shows, a bit pricey, but one day i may find the right one at a good price. has anyone fired any 7.62 x .25 rounds in a .30 mauser c96, i have heard it ok to do it, and fairly accurate and the surplus ammo is alot cheaper.
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Love your Mauser rig! Lots of great family history. If you are going to continue to shoot it,a couple of suggestions. Contact Wolff gunsprings at http://www.gunsprings.com and order a set of new springs. In my experience the recoil spring gets weak just thru age.You want a good strong recoil spring so the bolt stop does not get damaged. My personal experience with that surplus Tokaerv ammo is not good in these guns.It is loaded to hot and usually has corrosive Berdan primers. I stay away from that stuff! Bob
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thanks bob, i will check on the springs, took a few more pics of it, the before and after. one of the local so called broomhandel exsperts around here offered me 600.00 for it since it cleaned up so nice and had a matching stock with it. i declined. can any one tell mea bit more about uncs c96, i know it's a mauser c96 about 1930, thanks
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Dan,
Just an FYI, but unless your stock is numbered on the attaching iron, it really isn't an original, factory matched stock. The Germans may have numbered the wood later on, but to an advanced collector, this would not be a truly matched rig. Is your stock iron numbers matched to the pistol? Not a huge deal, since it is priceless to you, but just thought I'd put that out there. |
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This stock is not Mauser made stock. It's a replacement. The gun was refinished.
But if it shoots well in range..... I think I wouldn't sell any working-perfect Mauser Broomhandle under $1000 (even if it's refinished). Most of those "shooters" asking a few hundred dollars on the market do not work well, buyer has to spend money trying to fix various kinds of issues. The "shooter" name is misleading if it does not work. A reliable and accurate C96 is a gem which brings in lots of fun. Sell it under $1k? No way. |
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02-10-2012, 09:25 PM | #12 |
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yes , i cleaned and refurbed the pistol after it was given it me, the stock had other markings on it, i may have removed them, there is a 2, left.besides the serial number unc was too ill to tell me much about it by the time he passed it to me, It shoots well and now looks good and will never be for sale in my lifetime. the so call c96 expert every offer he ever made to me was usauly half of the value, consider him to be a joke for the most part. We all know experts just like him. everyone considers him a lowballer, but it is fun to hear the wrong information he gives out. as far as the c96 goes it is really fun to shoot, it is a long way from being retired.
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Glad to hear you are going to keep your Mauser C96 model 1930. Another couple of quick caveats. Examine the bolt stop carefully .Look for cracks or deformities. That part takes a beating when the gun is fired. If it fails the bolt flies out the back of the gun at high speed.Not pleasant. Also check that the little spring on the tip of the firing pin is secured to the pin upon reassembly. If the spring is not secured to the firing pin,it can become entangled with the recoil spring. This causes the firing pin to not retract between shots. Which in turn causes a slam fire and the gun goes full auto! Enjoy shooting it and pass it to the next generation! Bob
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thanks to both of you big time. that info about the ammo came from the same expert who low balls everyone on price. I highly doubt he has ever fired anything he owns
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That Tok ammo will beat that old gun to death.
I have seen several with the metal distortion pictured and cracks there as well. I own one I wont fire as it shows damage. They may be extracting the bolt from your forehead one day. |
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roger that. thats why i asked if it was ok to use it. I have become quite fond of the old c96 but i doubt i have fired 50 rounds thru it since i have had it. i have only had forty round os ammo for it and i still have some left. thanks again for the advise
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There is Tokarev ammunition, and then there is Tokarev ammunition
The original stuff was close to the C96 loads, but later versions were beefed up for submachiegun use. Same thing happened with the 9x19 that was loaded for the Sten gun, etc.. In the 1970s Interarms sold repackaged Russian 7,62 Tok of the milder variation as ammunition specifically for the C96. I shot a few of those boxes without ill effects. Only problem was the corrosive primer, so a good barrel scrubbing was needed after each session. So, not all Tok is bad, but not all Tok is good either. Which makes it wise to avoid using it in a C96 unless the package is sealed and clearly marked for C96 use. Hope this makes sense |
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In the past, people tried 7,62x25 Tokarev on Mauser because it's not easy to find correct .30 Mauser ammo. Not the situation nowadays. PPU .30 Mauser cartridge is available in many gun stores. PPU is actually weaker than DWM 403 and it's safe to use.
Another reason to use surplus Tokarev ammo was the price.... Serbian made PPU is not very cheap ($19.95 for 50 rounds?), but not as expensive as .30 Luger. |
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thanks to both of you for that information, i am allways looking for .30 mauser at gun shows. i fired the c 96 today but i was having extraction problems and only fired a few rounds.
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