Numrich 32 rd drums....

[G.T.]

Hello to all, just a short note to let you know the next 50 GT revised drums will be on the way to NUMRICN by early to mid January...
We are still streamlining and revising the revisions as we go along!
The fact that it can be revised to work and last, doesn't necessarily mean it is practical or cost effective to do so! But, we endeavor to perceiver, .....( Josie Wales? )..... This current batch will be stronger and better than ever... more to come... til....lat'r.....GT

[Eugen]

G.T., that is great. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "stronger and better"?

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Eugen

G.T., that is great. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "stronger and better"?

Stronger = new mainspring
Better= they "work" !

[milesc2]

Any idea what these will cost?

[G.T.]

Hi to all! As with anything, practice makes perfect... When I first started, I was trying anything and every thing to make the drums fit, function, and last! And by saying everything, I MEAN everything... ... I literally spent 3 months on three prototype drums just to satisfactorily reach those basic goals! Don can relate as he was with me every step of the way!
We finally chased it all down to a repair protocol that we could do repeatedly, with the necessary quality, and with some measure of confidence that we were solving the main problems? We were still way short of feasible!!!!
The solution to each of the problems that we encountered was a quest unto itself! We couldn't even do one revision operation cost effectively let alone 20 of them for each drum?.. So, once the problem and the repair process were identified, then began the effort to make the repairs or revisions repeatable and most importantly, cost effective... That means using the proper processes, and even having some parts remade or welded up and recut... This is where the better comes in, we can take each process that's within our control, and streamline them for production, and all the while improving the materials and processes needed... And, This second batch was a total learning experience, not on how to do it, but how to do it best! Everything mentioned above taken into consideration, we are doing great... My goal is 50 units per month... A lot depends on my outside work... welders machinist, black oxide coating... and so on... And, when I need to pony up out of pocket for the outside work, sometime, all I can offer up is a lint ball... (we're working on that!) All in all, I'm plenty happy with all so far... keeps me out of trouble so to speak! .........Merry Christmas to all, til...lat'r....GT...

[Eugen]

So if I were to go to the Numrich website in say late January to order one, how would I know I am getting the "stronger and better" version and not an earlier edition? Do they have a born on date or model number to distinguish them? Any idea as to the price?

[G.T.]

Hi Eugen, They are all good after the revision process! It' just that instead of fabricating one hand made part, we now have several hundred machined parts? Or instead of milling, we're now grinding... They are all the same to the end user? Once the GT stamp goes on, all issues are revised, now or before! The on-going and improved revisions are all in house to speed production time. And, with the uniformity and repetitiveness, comes quality! You just ask for the GT Edition, and as far as I know the price has been the same as from the beginning... As mentioned, batches of 50 are the goal, shipments of 25 at a time is probably more do-able... And realistic?.... .... best to all, til...lat'r....GT....

[Zorba]

The quality goes in before the name goes on...

[LugerMan.com]

Drums out ?

[G.T.]

Hi Eugene, yes, it seems as if I'm in a similar predicament as you! ......I have been revising the NUMRICH drums and loading tools for NUMRICH ARMS for fit, function and durability.... It is a tough go, as there is much to do to make them viable unit... I am currently doing 54 units for this go around... Months and months of, testing, tuning and streamlining?.... Lot'sa work, but when purchased, our forum members end up with a decent item! Not perfect even then, but useable and will last and function correctly! ....... best to you, til...lat'r.....GT

[milesc2]

I am looking at the Numrich page but I can't tell if this next batch has been received and sold out or has not yet been put up for sale?
Really wanting to get my hands on one of these so I hope its the latter.

EDIT: Just got off the phone with Numrich customer service, they have the drums in house but have not yet listed them for sale.

[G.T.]

Hi to all! I have 15 units that will be mailed to Numrich before the end of Jan. ! No use trying until probably second week in feb. as it takes a week or two to get there! ..... best to all, til...lat'r.....GT

[G.T.]

Hi to all, 15 G.T. newly revised NUMRICH 32 rd. drums & loading tools were mailed FedEx yesterday the 3rd! They said a week for delivery! Good luck guys! til...lat'r.....GT

[milesc2]

The drums are now listed for sale on the Numrich webpage.
Just ordered mine!

[Karl]

Here is the link:
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/980980

KFS

[DavidJayUden]

I received mine today and it looks great. Can't wait to shoot with it. Thanks G. T!
dju

[Hoot]

Ordered one today.

Can't wait can't wait can't wait can't wait.........

[Eugen]

I just placed my order for one!! Yipee

But, now I've got about $500 less money to blow in a few weeks at SOS Louisville 2018.

[G.T.]

Good luck to you future drum owners! Please keep in mind that there is still a task of tuning your luger to function with a drum is still awaiting you! If you pop it in and it works, that's great! But, ANY deficiency in the luger will show up PDQ (pretty damn quick! )
A strong, (or new ) full strength mainspring is essential... a strong extractor spring in needed as well...
If you have a empty jam issue, it will probably be the springs.... If you have a failure to feed, it may be the drum, ammo, or a particular round in the drum... start over!!
Lock the drum mainspring every time you disassemble the shell from the cup and plate!!!
Polishing the inside of the feed lips will help all of them... you can't over polish the unit.. slick is better!!!
MOST IMPORTANT!!! Treat every jam as a potential for harm! CLEAR the weapon, and MAKE SAFE! before you EVER start pondering the problem!!!
Drums are problematic... If you have any issues, call or write me gctomeks@msn.com and we will get them sorted out!! ...... Best to you all, and best of luck with your new toys!....til...lat'r....GT

[DonVoigt]

I'll just add to GT's remarks:
If you luger does not run perfectly with 8 round magazines and the ammo you choose- It won't run worth a crud with any drum.

Solve any problems with the luger and 8 rounds mags first, lube the pistol well, and also the drum.

If you have a particularly "minus" mag well, the drum may not enter fully or easily; this is also to be addressed first.