byf 1942

PMB · 06-18-2004, 03:09 PM

I just have bought my first Luger and I would like to know about this particular pistol as much as possible. The previous owner has no knowledge about the history of the gun, so I would like to know if there is possibility to trace the service record of the pistol, haveing its serial number? My Luger was manufactured in 1942 by Mauser factory - the producer code of the pistol is : "byf", the serial number : 2455 "i" , the Waffenamt: 135
I am affraid that there is no chance to find out to what army unit the gun was supplied but may be at least somebody can assess in what month of the year the pistol was produced?
I will be gratefula for any information.

P.S
Should the magazines also bear the two last digits of the serial number of the pistol? In my Luger the magazines probably are from different pistol - they are bearing the producer code : "fxo", the Waffenamt : 37 and the description "P 08".

Edward Tinker · 06-18-2004, 03:17 PM

Piotr, there is almsot no way to find out the "previous owners" of the gun.

The only way this is possible is if there is written record, such as the soldat (soldiers) book, if the gun was taken off of a person or it is written somewhere else. All unlikly to happen.

Approx date of manufacturer is possible and others can give you that info,

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Ed

PMB · 06-18-2004, 03:33 PM

Thank you for the clarification. As you said there is almost no way to find out the "history" of the gun and I was aware of the difficulties, but I had to try ask this question.

With best regards

Piotr

Frank · 06-18-2004, 03:47 PM

PMB, Welcome to the Luger Forum!! Your Luger, 2455i was completed about August 1942, give or take a month. Beyond that, it's about the only history you might expect!

John Sabato · 06-18-2004, 03:55 PM

Frank, correct me if I guess wrong, but I believe that by the late date of manufacture for this Luger, the magazines would likely have been un-numbered FXO types as PMB has indicated... Is that correct?

PMB · 06-18-2004, 03:56 PM

Thanks a lot. Now I know some details about my P 08. It seems like I will have to buy something for birthday present for my Luger in August. Holster perhaps.

Ron Smith · 06-18-2004, 04:15 PM

PMB You can send it to me for it's birthday! I'll even bake it a cake. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ron
(I keep trying,but nobody listens.)

Shut-up Frank!! ADMIN <img border="0" alt="[icon501]" title="" src="graemlins/icon501.gif" /> PLAY NICE RON

Frank · 06-18-2004, 08:51 PM

John, you are absolutely correct regarding the magazine. By that time, my guess would be a black plastic bottom fxo.

Ron Smith · 06-18-2004, 11:16 PM

Ed, No Problem! Just an inside running gag between Frank and Me. All meant in fun. I ignore people I don't like, or have a problem with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ron

Edward Tinker · 06-18-2004, 11:18 PM

I know Ron, but the "on-Lookers" don't know that and they might not realize it is "in-fun" and start being rotten luger owners

PMB · 06-19-2004, 02:38 AM

It's good to read that magazines of my Luger are OK. They have black plastic bottom. The magazines are "type 4" like ones presented in a Doug G. Collection in Member Gallery.

Ron Smith · 06-19-2004, 10:03 AM

Ed, I would like to offer an apology to Frank and all of the members for my indiscretion. I am sorry. For the uncalled for, and regretful out burst in the above post

Very Sincerely, Ron
PS, BTW That's not just Frank's avatar. It's his High School graduation photo.

Ron Wood · 06-19-2004, 07:14 PM

He graduated?

Frank · 06-19-2004, 09:20 PM

OK Ronses, this is me ignoring you!!!

Ron Smith · 06-19-2004, 11:23 PM

Teamwork...,All righty then!!!!

John Sabato · 06-20-2004, 10:32 AM

Frank went to School?

I know for certain that he is a graduate of Luger University... a very expensive education!

Ron Smith · 06-20-2004, 12:19 PM

John, That's true. However, I don't want anyone to think there is any under lying animosity here. Frank and I have a ribbing session going on. It all started when he e-mailed me some bum information. And I got suckered into buying a "junk" 1936 S/42. He told me it was Herman's Luger. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> And being a babe in the woods, I fell for it.
Infact I think Frank and I could be pretty good friends, but I'll be damned if I'll go to Arizona to find out!

Ron

Edward Tinker · 06-20-2004, 05:56 PM

Ron, I could "read" between the lines, but experience in the army showed me that in a platoon, if you get some guys bitch'en a lot, then everyone bitches. And although in a good and funny vein, "readers" can't tell and they might think they came upon the "other" gun boards,

John D and Johnnie S know that seriousness is NOT my forte, I just practice here on the forum cuz I try to keep an even, "nice" tone and keel going ehre. A sport that irritates many of my fellow lugger folks...

<img border="0" alt="[icon107]" title="" src="graemlins/icon107.gif" />

<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

06-18-2004, 03:09 PM	#1
PMB New User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	byf 1942 I just have bought my first Luger and I would like to know about this particular pistol as much as possible. The previous owner has no knowledge about the history of the gun, so I would like to know if there is possibility to trace the service record of the pistol, haveing its serial number? My Luger was manufactured in 1942 by Mauser factory - the producer code of the pistol is : "byf", the serial number : 2455 "i" , the Waffenamt: 135 I am affraid that there is no chance to find out to what army unit the gun was supplied but may be at least somebody can assess in what month of the year the pistol was produced? I will be gratefula for any information. P.S Should the magazines also bear the two last digits of the serial number of the pistol? In my Luger the magazines probably are from different pistol - they are bearing the producer code : "fxo", the Waffenamt : 37 and the description "P 08".

06-18-2004, 03:17 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Piotr, there is almsot no way to find out the "previous owners" of the gun. The only way this is possible is if there is written record, such as the soldat (soldiers) book, if the gun was taken off of a person or it is written somewhere else. All unlikly to happen. Approx date of manufacturer is possible and others can give you that info, Welcome to the forum! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-18-2004, 03:55 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Frank, correct me if I guess wrong, but I believe that by the late date of manufacture for this Luger, the magazines would likely have been un-numbered FXO types as PMB has indicated... Is that correct? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-18-2004, 04:15 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	PMB You can send it to me for it's birthday! I'll even bake it a cake. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Ron (I keep trying,but nobody listens.) Shut-up Frank!! ADMIN <img border="0" alt="[icon501]" title="" src="graemlins/icon501.gif" /> PLAY NICE RON __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-18-2004, 11:16 PM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ed, No Problem! Just an inside running gag between Frank and Me. All meant in fun. I ignore people I don't like, or have a problem with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-18-2004, 03:33 PM	#3
PMB New User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the clarification. As you said there is almost no way to find out the "history" of the gun and I was aware of the difficulties, but I had to try ask this question. With best regards Piotr

06-18-2004, 03:47 PM	#4
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	PMB, Welcome to the Luger Forum!! Your Luger, 2455i was completed about August 1942, give or take a month. Beyond that, it's about the only history you might expect!

06-18-2004, 03:56 PM	#6
PMB New User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks a lot. Now I know some details about my P 08. It seems like I will have to buy something for birthday present for my Luger in August. Holster perhaps.

06-18-2004, 08:51 PM	#8
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	John, you are absolutely correct regarding the magazine. By that time, my guess would be a black plastic bottom fxo.

06-18-2004, 11:18 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I know Ron, but the "on-Lookers" don't know that and they might not realize it is "in-fun" and start being rotten luger owners __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-19-2004, 02:38 AM	#11
PMB New User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's good to read that magazines of my Luger are OK. They have black plastic bottom. The magazines are "type 4" like ones presented in a Doug G. Collection in Member Gallery.

06-19-2004, 10:03 AM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ed, I would like to offer an apology to Frank and all of the members for my indiscretion. I am sorry. For the uncalled for, and regretful out burst in the above post Very Sincerely, Ron PS, BTW That's not just Frank's avatar. It's his High School graduation photo. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-19-2004, 07:14 PM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	He graduated? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-19-2004, 09:20 PM	#14
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	OK Ronses, this is me ignoring you!!!

06-19-2004, 11:23 PM	#15
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Teamwork...,All righty then!!!! __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-20-2004, 10:32 AM	#16
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Frank went to School? I know for certain that he is a graduate of Luger University... a very expensive education! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-20-2004, 12:19 PM	#17
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	John, That's true. However, I don't want anyone to think there is any under lying animosity here. Frank and I have a ribbing session going on. It all started when he e-mailed me some bum information. And I got suckered into buying a "junk" 1936 S/42. He told me it was Herman's Luger. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> And being a babe in the woods, I fell for it. Infact I think Frank and I could be pretty good friends, but I'll be damned if I'll go to Arizona to find out! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-20-2004, 05:56 PM	#18
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Ron, I could "read" between the lines, but experience in the army showed me that in a platoon, if you get some guys bitch'en a lot, then everyone bitches. And although in a good and funny vein, "readers" can't tell and they might think they came upon the "other" gun boards, John D and Johnnie S know that seriousness is NOT my forte, I just practice here on the forum cuz I try to keep an even, "nice" tone and keel going ehre. A sport that irritates many of my fellow lugger folks... <img border="0" alt="[icon107]" title="" src="graemlins/icon107.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV