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Unread 01-30-2019, 07:04 AM   #21
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The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days?

Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.
Those TT-33s are not in the US. That was a picture of one of several dumpsters full of new TT-33s waiting to be destroyed.
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Unread 01-30-2019, 12:16 PM   #22
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Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway
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Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?
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Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?
That would be "a" reason; they also don't meet import criteria- if you mean the Tokarev pistols.
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Venezuela could use them right about now.
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Buy T-33 here, scroll down to second item: https://mailchi.mp/aimsurplus/new-sh...s?e=cee4516609

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Unread 01-31-2019, 07:17 AM   #27
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Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway
Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(
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Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(
Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
Well, except for the ones that "fell off the truck".
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Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
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Really, really.

If any didn't make it into the dumpsters, they might have survived (for a while). But for the pistols in the dumpsters, crunchola.
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That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...
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A good substitute: https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo...-surplus-9rd/?
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Unread 02-07-2019, 04:44 PM   #32
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That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...
Unfortunately, no. Dumpsters of Soviet Russian TT-33 and Makarov pistols, and US 1911A1 pistols gone to the cruncher.





Sam Cummings and his business model have both been dead
for decades.
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Unread 02-07-2019, 04:54 PM   #33
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Knew I had at least one photo of the Makarov pistols on the way to the cruncher, just took me a while to remember where I'd filed it:

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Kyrie, I'd thank you for sharing those photos of destroyed firearms...but I am too busy crying and grieving.
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I can empathize, but GCA '68 pretty much killed the importation of military surplus firearms into the USA. If it wasn't commercial w/sporting use, or police with sporting use, it wasn't importable into the US.

It wasn't until 1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act, and policy changes at the Federal level, that we once more began to see some limited amount of what used to be called "military surplus" firearms. And even then the point system and minimum feature requirements remained in effect (which is why all the TT-33s imported after '86 had safeties installed).
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Right, but the later restrictions placed on "weapons of war" against China (by Clinton) and Russia (by Obama) stopped Makarovs and other Com-bloc weapons from otherwise legal import. Trump could reverse those orders, if he was made aware and saw fit to do so.
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I would love to have a few of those MG42s

they would be an awesome tool for taking down unwanted farm silos!

https://youtu.be/EzKvwYt3Zyg

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