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Unread 04-02-2021, 07:33 AM   #1
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Default Navy P-04... very very rare.

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I need your expert opinion.
It's a Luger navy, but of course it has quite rare features.

I have a chance to buy it, but I don't know if it's a piece of great value, or it's a low-value piece.

What do you think?

Do I let her get away, or do I buy it?
























The owner has never fired, but I think with that spotlight, the impacts will probably go very high.
It's very strange that this gun came out of the factory like this, but it doesn't seem to have undergone any subsequent modifications.
It's very well preserved.
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Run Antonio, run! That gun is a total fabrication of miscellaneous parts and has been heavily and inexpertly refinished.
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What will it be?

It will be a recomposition of the year 1923 ??
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A mixmaster? I'd love to see a rundown of what parts came from what models.
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This Frankenluger hurts my eyes and offends my Navy sensibilities. You can't exactly call it a fake, because it bears no semblance to any actual Navy Luger.
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Luger Mash

I was working in the lab, late one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For my monster from his slab, began to rise
And suddenly to my surprise
He did the Luger mash
(The Luger mash) It was a graveyard smash
(He did the mash) It caught on in a flash
(He did the mash) He did the Luger mash

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ok ok
I won't buy it,

Stay calm!! jajajaja

I did well on my own and just took a few pictures of the gun.

But... someone can tell me where it might have come from like this?

It will be of the recomposed in the 1920s, with different parts of stock??
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Unread 04-02-2021, 03:11 PM   #8
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I would drop 200 bucks on that in a heartbeat.
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I would drop 200 bucks on that in a heartbeat.
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...And then you could put a 5" barrel on it and call it a 1900 Navy, maybe make a few bucks on it...
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That's exactly what I thought... if I bought this luger in the future, I would try to get a 6" barrel and it would be a better recomposition


It wouldn't be original, but "at least" would look more like the right thing to do.

But, in Spain it is extremely difficult to import a barrel, and replace it.
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I don,t know, i,m a new Luger owner, but I like this particular gun even if it,s a mongrel of parts and epochs.

Coming from a background of building custom motorcycles, bobbers, choppers- frequently a mixture of parts, it,s very difficult to be a purist collector. You simply look at aesthetics of proportions, silhouette and function.

Perhaps somebody tried to build a ‘hotrod’ of a Luger, but it,s a shame if they try to pass it for a specific authentic gun.

Herr Werle is playing around with firearms based on Luger mechanics, some of his Frankenstein creations might be considered ugly.. but damn if he is not having a good time....

If I had more Luger parts, perhaps I would create some chopped up cool functional ‘monstrosity ‘

IMHO
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if you will go to the bottom of our thread/topical listings, you will find a category of "want to buy"...members are constantly looking for a part or assembly with no regard of a matching number....then there are those who are always looking for a particular number on a part for their effort to build an original luger "all matching numbers"....when they are marketed as an "original, all matching Numbers" built by the parts buyer, they have totally misrepresented the weapon being sold.....an older weapon is highly unlikely to be an original all-matching weapon after being 75-100 years old...

enjoy the presentation in your possession...it is likely the closest you will ever own of the luger you would really like to own.....Tom
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If you are curious, here is what real 1904 P.04s look like. Photos from 21 Feb 2019, when two extremely high condition originals were together at SOS.
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