Interesting finish, Simson

DavidJayUden · 01-12-2019, 09:02 AM

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/796385819

Rust? Patina? Not polished/rough machine work prior to bluing?

dju

DonVoigt · 01-12-2019, 09:11 AM

That one has been around for a while; scaly look often comes with a pistol that has been in a fire.
No way to know for sure, but I doubt it came that way from Simson.

sheepherder · 01-12-2019, 10:26 AM

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These handguns were only made for 2 years. 1925 & 1926

Is that right??? Simson only made Lugers for two years???

DonVoigt · 01-12-2019, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Is that right??? Simson only made Lugers for two years???

No.

MW2152 · 01-12-2019, 02:20 PM

I had recently seen this pistol also. My question about it is, given its current appearance, is it still worth the money given how difficult to find Simson Lugers are, and how expensive they generally are when compared to other Lugers? Not sure that what is essentially a “shooter” Simson Luger is worth a premium over any other “shooter” grade Luger? Just was curious.

Edward Tinker · 01-12-2019, 02:44 PM

there are lots of simson's out there - just keep looking

on the other hand, if you can get it cheaper, than its worth it - I do find it funny, when I sold simson, never anyone looking for one.

mrerick · 01-12-2019, 06:29 PM

Rich, They were made by Simson & Sons in Suhl until they were dismantled (a Jewish firm) in about 1933-1934.

Only 12,000 made in that period.

The tooling and gauges were removed to Krieghoff where production continued until the war's end.

It one of them worth more as a "Shooter"? I bought mine as a shooter because it had been salt blue refinished. It's the only Luger I've had restored. I paid a mid-range shooter price for it before doing the restoration.

Ron Wood · 01-12-2019, 06:50 PM

I have seen a mottled finish like that on a Luger that had been oiled but stored for a long time (years?) in plastic wrap.
Ron

01-12-2019, 09:02 AM	#1
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Interesting finish, Simson https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/796385819 Rust? Patina? Not polished/rough machine work prior to bluing? dju

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	That one has been around for a while; scaly look often comes with a pistol that has been in a fire. No way to know for sure, but I doubt it came that way from Simson. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Rich, They were made by Simson & Sons in Suhl until they were dismantled (a Jewish firm) in about 1933-1934. Only 12,000 made in that period. The tooling and gauges were removed to Krieghoff where production continued until the war's end. It one of them worth more as a "Shooter"? I bought mine as a shooter because it had been salt blue refinished. It's the only Luger I've had restored. I paid a mid-range shooter price for it before doing the restoration. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-12-2019, 06:50 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	I have seen a mottled finish like that on a Luger that had been oiled but stored for a long time (years?) in plastic wrap. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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MW2152 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 50 Thanks: 11 Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts	I had recently seen this pistol also. My question about it is, given its current appearance, is it still worth the money given how difficult to find Simson Lugers are, and how expensive they generally are when compared to other Lugers? Not sure that what is essentially a “shooter” Simson Luger is worth a premium over any other “shooter” grade Luger? Just was curious.

01-12-2019, 02:44 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	there are lots of simson's out there - just keep looking on the other hand, if you can get it cheaper, than its worth it - I do find it funny, when I sold simson, never anyone looking for one.