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Unread 05-21-2021, 10:03 PM   #1
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Reading about Argentinian Hafdasa and Zonda open bolt pistols I discovered this neat open bolt thing..

Besides what,s readily available via google, any additional info?

The internals of the gun seem assembled similarly to Whitney in a sleeve /slide. Seems not very complicated design.
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The internals of the gun seem assembled similarly to Whitney in a sleeve /slide. Seems not very complicated design.
"Wolverine" was what popped into my head at first glance. Like mistaking a Lahti or a Ruger for a Parabellum until your eye gathers enough details to make a proper I.D.

Without knowing more, it would be reasonable to surmise that these weren't military pistols, since firing from an open bolt would not lend itself to passing a mud/dirt/sand test, right?
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"Wolverine" was what popped into my head at first glance. Like mistaking a Lahti or a Ruger for a Parabellum until your eye gathers enough details to make a proper I.D.

Without knowing more, it would be reasonable to surmise that these weren't military pistols, since firing from an open bolt would not lend itself to passing a mud/dirt/sand test, right?
Well, I,m under a strong impression that most of the full auto capable / designated military assault weapons of WW1 and ww2 were open bolt design. Typically very reliable... very simple.

Loose tolerances probably prevented contamination malfunctions.


Yet the military side arms have never been open bolt, I believe because of inaccuracy characteristic of open bolt - with the slam of the whole bolt mass at the time of the shot, ruining the aim?

But 22 caliber open bolt need only 0.4lb bolt for an open bolt safe operation and cycling ( and more weight in the close bolt for simple blow back as it s static mass controlling the explosion.)

Therefore the recoil and control not as bad as I would have been a 9 mm parabellum handgun or even rifle in open bolt...

I love open bolt design due to it,s simplicity ...hence looking for a beloved Gevarm, my only chance to have legit open bolt weapon.

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