how does one disasseble the magazine to clean it ??

robbt · 08-25-2014, 12:14 AM

Hi , I have a military type 4, fxo eagle 37 magazine , how does one disasseble the magazine to clean it ??
many thanks,robbt

Sergio Natali · 08-25-2014, 04:55 AM

Personally I would never use an original magazine like yours, period.
If I really had to clean one I think I would soak it in gasoline without touching the wood/backelite base that tend to be rather fragile.

But now I'll let other members more expert than me to give their contribution.

Sergio

Edward Tinker · 08-25-2014, 07:27 AM

Most people who take them apart bugger up the pins.

If you want to send it to GT he can take it apart for you. Personally, I just spray them with a cleaner and use swabs or qtips to mess with them.

mrerick · 08-25-2014, 09:17 AM

Honestly... Send it to a specialist like G.T. (on this forum).

He has the tools and expertise to restore original magazines properly.

Marc

wlyon · 08-25-2014, 10:18 AM

Get a can of "Gun Scrubber, spray the inside a couple times and the lightly oil. If you don't have gun scrubber soak in carburetor cleaner. If a problem with mag agree with the above send it to GT. Bill

John Sabato · 08-25-2014, 10:19 AM

Dip the tube feeding lips first into an appropriate solvent (Hoppe's #9 for instance), agitate slightly, take out of the solvent and drip dry... shake the excess out. Hold the magazine follower all the way down with the loading tool while you swab out the inside with a small cleaning rod with a couple of cleaning patches. Light gun oil and put the magazine back to work. This should keep your magazines clean and functional. Disassembly is not required unless they are in REALLY bad shape... in that case send them to GT.

I would not recommend that Luger magazines be disassembled by an amateur. Unless you are an expert like GT, you will never get the pins back in the way they were before disassembly...

My father once advised me, the only person who takes apart a wristwatch is a jeweler,... or a fool. I believe similar advice applies in this situation.

robbt · 08-25-2014, 02:08 PM

hi guys , I am back , in light that members have stated to protect my original magazine , what type repro can I buy that will work ?
i bought two pictured below at gun show , both unmarked , unsure who made them and I have not had the time to test them , any advise ??
many thanks,

tharpo · 08-25-2014, 02:38 PM

I will depress the mag spring down with a plastic mag loader and clean the inside of the body with a cotton patch soaked with Breakfree CLP.

Tom

John Sabato · 08-25-2014, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbt

hi guys , I am back , in light that members have stated to protect my original magazine , what type repro can I buy that will work ?
i bought two pictured below at gun show , both unmarked , unsure who made them and I have not had the time to test them , any advise ??
many thanks,

The plastic bottom magazine was manufactured by Triple-K. They are considered to be good mags by many, but whether or not it will work in your Luger is a test and find out answer. Every Luger has its quirks. I cannot determine from your out of focus photos who manufactured your aluminum bottom magazine.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-25-2014, 03:40 PM

your aluminum bottom magazine looks Mexican or Danish.

rhuff · 08-25-2014, 03:52 PM

John,

I believe that the plastic base mag could possibly be a Stoeger OEM mag. I own a few of them, and they look identical to the photo, but the photos are so fuzzy that it is hard to be sure. The alum base mag is so out of focus that I have no idea.

robbt · 08-25-2014, 04:20 PM

hi guys , mexican ???
I can try for better pictures , what views would assist a id ??
many thanks,

lugerholsterrepair · 08-25-2014, 04:36 PM

Robt, Yes..usually Mexican mags or Danish for that matter are marked with the country of origin on the bottom. Denmark, or MEXICO. They also typically have a deep dish out on the aluminum pull. Hard to say for sure...

robbt · 08-25-2014, 05:18 PM

hi jerry , both are un marked and donnot have the weight of the WW2 one I have ,

cirelaw · 08-25-2014, 05:19 PM

I hope this video is of help~ I appears to be from our Forum~~Eric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XrP3cUf6U

ithacaartist · 08-26-2014, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

I hope this video is of help~ I appears to be from our Forum~~Eric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XrP3cUf6U

I hate to say it, but I find this demonstration pretty crappy. Perhaps for a repair in the field, maybe... But even a home shop can do better to protect the form of the mag and prevent damage. One technique I use is to reach into the follower slot with the tips of a needle-nose spring clamp and compress and hold the spring to relieve all tension on the mag bottom. Instead of wailing away with a misaligned punch and hammer, the pin can be removed by pushing it out with the tip of a toothpick--or at the most, very little force delivered by a punch that is correctly sized.

Supporting the mag body is a bit more complicated than this guy makes it out--the edge of a book? And during his re-installation of the pin, he's hammering away without any support at all for the mag body, which is suspended between the upper part of the body and the mag bottom's knob, which is up on the book!! I won't get into the details, but one needs to contrive some very simple tooling to preform this simple task without buggering things.

cirelaw · 08-26-2014, 08:26 PM

Sorry It was the only one I could find in the limited art of luger magazines~

ithacaartist · 08-26-2014, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Sorry It was the only one I could find in the limited art of luger magazines~

Eric, good work. I'm jut sayin' that a how-to sanctioned/presented by the forum ought to be better than this one. I'm a little embarrassed-by-association! I hope someday soon it is updated with an improved version.

cirelaw · 08-26-2014, 08:49 PM

TKS I love a challenge!

GreyHammer · 08-26-2014, 09:12 PM

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08-25-2014, 12:14 AM	#1
robbt User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	how does one disasseble the magazine to clean it ?? Hi , I have a military type 4, fxo eagle 37 magazine , how does one disasseble the magazine to clean it ?? many thanks,robbt

08-25-2014, 04:55 AM	#2
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Personally I would never use an original magazine like yours, period. If I really had to clean one I think I would soak it in gasoline without touching the wood/backelite base that tend to be rather fragile. But now I'll let other members more expert than me to give their contribution. Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

08-25-2014, 07:27 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Most people who take them apart bugger up the pins. If you want to send it to GT he can take it apart for you. Personally, I just spray them with a cleaner and use swabs or qtips to mess with them. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-25-2014, 09:17 AM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Honestly... Send it to a specialist like G.T. (on this forum). He has the tools and expertise to restore original magazines properly. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-25-2014, 10:18 AM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,631 Thanks: 3,170 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	Get a can of "Gun Scrubber, spray the inside a couple times and the lightly oil. If you don't have gun scrubber soak in carburetor cleaner. If a problem with mag agree with the above send it to GT. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-25-2014, 10:19 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Dip the tube feeding lips first into an appropriate solvent (Hoppe's #9 for instance), agitate slightly, take out of the solvent and drip dry... shake the excess out. Hold the magazine follower all the way down with the loading tool while you swab out the inside with a small cleaning rod with a couple of cleaning patches. Light gun oil and put the magazine back to work. This should keep your magazines clean and functional. Disassembly is not required unless they are in REALLY bad shape... in that case send them to GT. I would not recommend that Luger magazines be disassembled by an amateur. Unless you are an expert like GT, you will never get the pins back in the way they were before disassembly... My father once advised me, the only person who takes apart a wristwatch is a jeweler,... or a fool. I believe similar advice applies in this situation. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-25-2014, 02:08 PM	#7
robbt User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hi guys , I am back , in light that members have stated to protect my original magazine , what type repro can I buy that will work ? i bought two pictured below at gun show , both unmarked , unsure who made them and I have not had the time to test them , any advise ?? many thanks,

08-25-2014, 02:38 PM	#8
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	I will depress the mag spring down with a plastic mag loader and clean the inside of the body with a cotton patch soaked with Breakfree CLP. Tom

08-25-2014, 03:40 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	your aluminum bottom magazine looks Mexican or Danish. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-25-2014, 03:52 PM	#11
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,289 Thanks: 2,704 Thanked 971 Times in 716 Posts	John, I believe that the plastic base mag could possibly be a Stoeger OEM mag. I own a few of them, and they look identical to the photo, but the photos are so fuzzy that it is hard to be sure. The alum base mag is so out of focus that I have no idea.

08-25-2014, 04:20 PM	#12
robbt User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hi guys , mexican ??? I can try for better pictures , what views would assist a id ?? many thanks,

08-25-2014, 04:36 PM	#13
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Robt, Yes..usually Mexican mags or Danish for that matter are marked with the country of origin on the bottom. Denmark, or MEXICO. They also typically have a deep dish out on the aluminum pull. Hard to say for sure... __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-25-2014, 05:18 PM	#14
robbt User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hi jerry , both are un marked and donnot have the weight of the WW2 one I have ,

08-25-2014, 05:19 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I hope this video is of help~ I appears to be from our Forum~~Eric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XrP3cUf6U Attached Thumbnails

08-26-2014, 08:26 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Sorry It was the only one I could find in the limited art of luger magazines~

08-26-2014, 08:49 PM	#19
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	TKS I love a challenge!

08-26-2014, 09:12 PM	#20
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