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Lugers down under · 06-17-2002, 05:37 PM

chuck · 06-17-2002, 06:17 PM

HEY ,THAT IS A REALY NICE LOOKING BUNCH YOU HAVE. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Lugers down under · 06-17-2002, 06:39 PM

Hi,
Thanks, these were the items I picked up in the Auction here on Saturday morning> the Artillery and snail drum in the middle along with a 1916 DWM and a 1917 DWM. The artillery is the one that is unit marked and was captured at the Somme in 1918. I will psot some better photos when I get back home.

Pete Ebbink · 06-18-2002, 07:03 PM

Hello Murray,

What wonderful, auction finds you stumbled onto...Congratulations !!! [img]eek.gif[/img]

Might I ask how such nice and plentiful lugers, historically, ended up in New Zealand ?

Can't remember if New Zealand got into WWI. In WWII, did a lot of vets bring back lugers in their duffel bags ? Or are there some big importers working overtime at the bottom end of the world ? <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Edward Tinker · 06-18-2002, 07:18 PM

Holy smokes, I never see anything like that at my auctions!

Maybe a old .22 or 12 gauge! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Very nice.

Brandon · 06-18-2002, 07:45 PM

Don't feel like the lone ranger Ed! The auction finds here are pretty much the same. [img]frown.gif[/img]

Brandon

Russ · 06-18-2002, 08:32 PM

We have a gun auction here once a year. lots of screwed with guns. never any lugers. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

Roadkill · 06-18-2002, 10:26 PM

New Zealand was a major participant in the Gallipoli campaign/debacle fighting the Turks in 1915, the group was called the ANZAC (Austrailia NZ), after that campaign failed they fought in Europe on the western front. Check out this site if you want more info.

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzac.htm

RK

Doubs · 06-19-2002, 07:54 PM

A very nice haul indeed! I'm green with envy!

I was lucky enough to be part of a military deployment to NZ in 1976. We spent two weeks at Ohakea RNZAFB, not far from Palmerston North. We were the first US military unit to conduct exercises from a NZ base since the war if what we were told was correct. During our stay, an elderly gentleman was given a tour of our F-4 fighters. He was NZ's only living Ace from WW1 and he was treated like royalty.... as he should have.

What I saw of North Island was beautiful and I don't believe I've ever seen the Milky Way so clear and bright.

Pete Ebbink · 06-19-2002, 10:27 PM

Hello Grady,

Thanks for the refresher history lesson...

I do remember seeing that Mel Gibson movie, Golipolli (sp ?), a few year back...just forgot...

<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />

Brandon · 06-19-2002, 10:41 PM

That was a good movie! I give it two thumbs up! <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />

Brandon

Pete Ebbink · 06-19-2002, 10:53 PM

Hey Buddy,

Thats four thumbs up...

Just teasing ya'...!

Lugers down under · 06-20-2002, 12:48 AM

Thanks for the kind words Guys,
Yes you are correct Roadkill, New Zealand had the highest casualties per capita in WW1.
Today I visited a WW1 marmorial in a little town call Akaroa on our south Island coast. I counted 104 names of those who did not return from the "Great War" as it is known here. That was one little town of only 400 total population in 1914 thats 25% loss.
My great uncle Fred Willis died at Passchendaele were the New Zealanders lost two divisions, 1500 men in less than half an hour.
My wife's Grandfather fought at Gallipoli and in Eygpt and Palestine in the New Zealand Mounted Rifles,Many of the men who went early were all farmers who knew how to ride and shoot and had thier own horses.Most did not return.
Thus there are many more WW1 guns here than WW2.
If you would like to know, I paid NZ$6400 for the whole basket full, thats about $3000 US Dollars.
Once again, many thanks for your kind words.
Regards
Murray.

Brandon · 06-20-2002, 09:29 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink:
<strong>Hey Buddy,

Thats four thumbs up...

Just teasing ya'...!</strong><hr></blockquote>

To My Pal: Pete
Now that you mention it, that is four thumbs up!
Don't worry I'll fix it! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> , Brandon

George Anderson · 07-17-2002, 12:38 PM

That's a super artillery rig found in NZ. I am coming across quite a few artillery accessories in Australia now such as trommel mags and stocks. The Australians outlawed pistol ownership a couple of years ago and now the sad owners are selling off those parts that survived the confiscation.

For Luger folks and admirers of the ANZAC, you should all get a copy of the movie "ANZAC; the War Downunder" It's got several scenes in which Australian troops are using captured artilleries and Red Nines.

06-17-2002, 05:37 PM	#1
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	My Shopping Basket. __________________ Lugers down under

06-17-2002, 06:39 PM	#3
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Hi, Thanks, these were the items I picked up in the Auction here on Saturday morning> the Artillery and snail drum in the middle along with a 1916 DWM and a 1917 DWM. The artillery is the one that is unit marked and was captured at the Somme in 1918. I will psot some better photos when I get back home. __________________ Lugers down under

06-18-2002, 07:18 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Holy smokes, I never see anything like that at my auctions! Maybe a old .22 or 12 gauge! [img]biggrin.gif[/img] Very nice. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-18-2002, 08:32 PM	#7
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	We have a gun auction here once a year. lots of screwed with guns. never any lugers. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

06-20-2002, 12:48 AM	#13
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for the kind words Guys, Yes you are correct Roadkill, New Zealand had the highest casualties per capita in WW1. Today I visited a WW1 marmorial in a little town call Akaroa on our south Island coast. I counted 104 names of those who did not return from the "Great War" as it is known here. That was one little town of only 400 total population in 1914 thats 25% loss. My great uncle Fred Willis died at Passchendaele were the New Zealanders lost two divisions, 1500 men in less than half an hour. My wife's Grandfather fought at Gallipoli and in Eygpt and Palestine in the New Zealand Mounted Rifles,Many of the men who went early were all farmers who knew how to ride and shoot and had thier own horses.Most did not return. Thus there are many more WW1 guns here than WW2. If you would like to know, I paid NZ$6400 for the whole basket full, thats about $3000 US Dollars. Once again, many thanks for your kind words. Regards Murray. __________________ Lugers down under

06-17-2002, 06:17 PM	#2
chuck User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: delaware Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HEY ,THAT IS A REALY NICE LOOKING BUNCH YOU HAVE. [img]wink.gif[/img]

06-18-2002, 07:03 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Murray, What wonderful, auction finds you stumbled onto...Congratulations !!! [img]eek.gif[/img] Might I ask how such nice and plentiful lugers, historically, ended up in New Zealand ? Can't remember if New Zealand got into WWI. In WWII, did a lot of vets bring back lugers in their duffel bags ? Or are there some big importers working overtime at the bottom end of the world ? <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

06-18-2002, 07:45 PM	#6
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't feel like the lone ranger Ed! The auction finds here are pretty much the same. [img]frown.gif[/img] Brandon

06-18-2002, 10:26 PM	#8
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	New Zealand was a major participant in the Gallipoli campaign/debacle fighting the Turks in 1915, the group was called the ANZAC (Austrailia NZ), after that campaign failed they fought in Europe on the western front. Check out this site if you want more info. http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzac.htm RK

06-19-2002, 07:54 PM	#9
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,611 Times in 525 Posts	A very nice haul indeed! I'm green with envy! I was lucky enough to be part of a military deployment to NZ in 1976. We spent two weeks at Ohakea RNZAFB, not far from Palmerston North. We were the first US military unit to conduct exercises from a NZ base since the war if what we were told was correct. During our stay, an elderly gentleman was given a tour of our F-4 fighters. He was NZ's only living Ace from WW1 and he was treated like royalty.... as he should have. What I saw of North Island was beautiful and I don't believe I've ever seen the Milky Way so clear and bright.

06-19-2002, 10:27 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Grady, Thanks for the refresher history lesson... I do remember seeing that Mel Gibson movie, Golipolli (sp ?), a few year back...just forgot... <img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />

06-19-2002, 10:41 PM	#11
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That was a good movie! I give it two thumbs up! <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> Brandon

06-19-2002, 10:53 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hey Buddy, Thats four thumbs up... Just teasing ya'...!

06-20-2002, 09:29 AM	#14
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink: <strong>Hey Buddy, Thats four thumbs up... Just teasing ya'...!</strong><hr></blockquote> To My Pal: Pete Now that you mention it, that is four thumbs up! Don't worry I'll fix it! [img]biggrin.gif[/img] <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> , Brandon

07-17-2002, 12:38 PM	#15
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	That's a super artillery rig found in NZ. I am coming across quite a few artillery accessories in Australia now such as trommel mags and stocks. The Australians outlawed pistol ownership a couple of years ago and now the sad owners are selling off those parts that survived the confiscation. For Luger folks and admirers of the ANZAC, you should all get a copy of the movie "ANZAC; the War Downunder" It's got several scenes in which Australian troops are using captured artilleries and Red Nines.