1917 Erfurt luger

[tm510a]

All matching serial numbers butt stock holster.

[sheepherder]

OK, we have pics...Now there are a couple more points to add, detailed in this thread -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=12096

Again, it helps to know where you are and if you have an FFL (or can ship through a FFL holder)...

[sheepherder]

While we're waiting, let me point out that this "artillery" has what appears to be a toggle rear sight and no receiver notch...

[Neil Young]

tm510a:
Are you sure about the date? It's my understanding that Erfurt only made artillery Lugers in 1914.

[alanint]

Agreed........May we see the serial numbers on the bottom of the barrel?

Also, someone has modified the holster's closure strap with crude staples and the strap has a pearcing. It looks like a piece of an old K98 sling was used as a repair...

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by Neil Young

tm510a:
Are you sure about the date? It's my understanding that Erfurt only made artillery Lugers in 1914.

I was wondering when someone would pick up on that!

[Edward Tinker]

this is in the for sale section, but since he has email turned on for this posting (I looked) and he's new, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but by morning, if still no price, I will soft delete the thread...

[alanint]

The gun is military numbered and has a Germany stamp?

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by alanint

The gun is military numbered and has a Germany stamp?

That isn't all that uncommon. It has military numbering and proofs/inspection marks so it was never a commercial piece. But during the 1920s their economy was so bad that almost anything that could be exported commercially was gathered up to raise money. As you know the US regs required country of origin markings, so these former military pieces had to be stamped accordingly.

[Edward Tinker]

moved to new collectors area

IF the original poster desires to sell this item, they can contact me or repost with proper information

[sheepherder]

Well, it's obvious that Tony's wife interrupted him while posting, and although she approves of him getting rid of some of his 'junk', she's already spending the money...

So let's help her out by giving an estimate...

Hmmm, we don't know where the '1917' came from, can we guess that this non-Erfurt has a 1917 chamber date??? Erfurt toggle, artillery barrel (maybe an original?), unknown frame, buggered holster...Barrel is in much better shape than the rest of the gun/parts...Most likely a repro...Grips look awfully good...

It's probably worth more in parts than as a shooter (which is the best it can be), but I'd peg it at $700 - $800, as an ersatz shooter...Maybe more if honestly described on GB...(Gun only)...

The all-matching numbers is suspect, I'd think...

Stock-holster I couldn't put even an estimate on (not my field of interest)...

It would be interesting to see barrel bottom + frame serial...and chamber hood...

Other estimates???

[lugersrkewl]

that barrel needs a little "distressed look" applied to it before putting on gunbroker.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by lugersrkewl

that barrel needs a little "distressed look" applied to it before putting on gunbroker.

I've been wondering about that, as I have a BN Mec-Gar mag I'd like to 'age'...maybe a salt shaker with watered-down naval jelly sprinkled on the surface??? Give it some 'age spots'...

Someone mentioned 'browning' one time...What is that??? How is it done???

[sheepherder]

One additional comment...On the area inside the right frame ear...There is usually tool marks here, made by an end mill, but this area has...gouges...I can't even imagine what made them...

[GySgt1811]

("Someone mentioned 'browning' one time...What is that??? How is it done??")

(Koff Koff) Medium hot skillet, good olive oil, dip part in egg and cracker crumb mixture, fry 2 to 3 minutes per side.. (koff Koff)

[lugersrkewl]

it looks like someone literally twisted a repro arty barrel onto a 4 inch erfurt

[DavidJayUden]

Don't ALL Erfurt barrel extensions have the cut out for the Arty. sight?
dju

[MFC]

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Don't ALL Erfurt barrel extensions have the cut out for the Arty. sight?
dju

No... 1914 Erfurts with 4" barrels did not have the artillery notch. 1916 through 1918, most do but a few don't.

[DavidJayUden]

Thank you for the clarification.
dju

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Don't ALL Erfurt barrel extensions have the cut out for the Arty. sight?
dju

Originally Posted by MFC

No... 1914 Erfurts with 4" barrels did not have the artillery notch. 1916 through 1918, most do but a few don't.

While I don't doubt your clarification, I see that I'm not the only one who has read here that all Erfurts had the notch...I don't recall who said [wrote] it, but it did stick in my memory...Crowding out more important facts, like what I had for dinner last Tuesday...